Trump Administration to Require Drug Tests for Unemployment Applicants

January 3, 2018
OAN Newsroom

The Trump administration is considering the return and expansion of a rule that Congress killed last year, which required drug testing for unemployment benefits.

The Labor Department signaled its plans to mandate drug testing for unemployment applicants this week.

FILE PHOTO – A sign marks the entrance to a job fair in New York. (Photo/REUTERS/Shannon Stapleton)

This comes after Republicans used the Congressional Review Act to repeal the Obama-era rule last March, which limited the ability of states to drug test people applying for unemployment benefits.

The Labor Department’s move on unemployment will break new ground on the use of the CRA.

This comes after $1.6 billion in unemployment benefits were paid to people not seeking work.

  • RainingLogic

    For all you people trumpeting “fiscal responsibility!” – you know how much it would cost to implement this kind of standard testing? A lot.

    Add in the fact that it wouldn’t be effective and you just have a bad idea based on misguided vindictiveness.

  • manliter

    All in all a very good idea!!

  • Sylvia Avila

    Good! they should drag test their employees now, it seems those Dems in Congress have fallen into drug addiction! They show signs of mental illness and imparted common sense! Test them all!

  • Joe

    Unemployment is NOT taxpayer money!! It’s deducted from your pay and your employer pays the rest

  • Marty Kirkpatrick

    Drug tests for everyone..I believe this is invasion of privacy through totally humiliating circumstances, but if it must be ,then so be it. Marijuana, the main target of those tests, because of its residual effects in the bloodstream, has no debilitating withdrawal symptoms. Just quit smoking it..now, the cost of everyone being required to have a drug test to be deemed worthwhile to exist will have a far more debilitating affect on ones pocketbook, which everyone is subject to feel..of course the ones promoting this through their swamp
    holders I.D. card will not suffer, it will be handled by passing the debt down to taxpayers.. therefore, bring it on, we will be jaded to the drain because the voters don’t have a grasp on the waste their tax dollars are spent on by bureaucrats anyway..it will cure our nations ills with legal opiates overnight.

  • Re

    It would put a crimp in the freeloaders pocket. Go for it. l see job wanted signs all the time. A very cheap measure to cut the graft.

  • phicrappazappa

    The money saved should be astronomical.

  • ranger bob

    Drug testing has become quite commonplace in the private sector – for good reasons: safety, dependability, and competence.

    I’m not sure that drug testing for unemployment is such a good idea. After all, someone may end up unemployed because they failed a drug test at their place of employment. Denial of unemployment benefits may diminish the chances of them getting into and through rehab.

    Why not use drug testing at the initiation of unemployment benefits to get them into mandatory counseling for their problem. If they fail to show up for the canceling and fail to do what the councilors mandate then deny the money.

  • Outstanding! This should include Welfare, Food Stamps, EBT Card, the works! You want to get Taxpayer Funded Freebies, then you need to prove to be drug free! Myself, I love cannabis and will continue to indulge, but of course, I have been a hard worker all my life, never once taking welfare, Food Stamps, or any freebie. Today, I am retired, two home paid for, everything paid for, and enjoying the good life of a quiet retirement and fantastic kind weed!

  • Outstanding! This should include Welfare, Food Stamps, EBT Card, the works! You want to get Taxpayer Funded Freebies, then you need to prove to be drug free! Myself, I love cannabis and will continue to indulge, but of course, I have been a hard worker all my life, never once taking welfare, Food Stamps, or any freebie. Today, I am retired, two home paid for, everything paid for, and enjoying the good life of a quiet retirement and fantastic kind weed!

    • Nathan Pinnhead

      This would hurt the drug using, obese, poor whites living in small towns and rural America. It would thin the herd of these parasites.

      • Good, no matter what the race of the person is, if they are using drugs while taking welfare or food stamps, then I pray it does hurt them. Not just poor whites in rural America, but all the races. I take it your a White Hating Black Idiot, aren’t you! Or a White Idiot? Liberal Idiot, for sure.

        • Nathan Pinnhead

          Careful with the namecalling Son.

          • When someone it talking trash, I call them out and you were talking trashing Whites, so I figured you were a Niglet Asswipe, and if you don’t like it, kiss my Lilly White Mans ASS, boy! Been reading your comments, about your research teams, bla, bla, bla. Sounds like a dumbass Leftist Commie is trying to build up his pathetic life with Lies. Now, take your warning and stick it where the sun don’t shine, Nate!

          • Arbeit Macht Frei

            I’ll bet some of your best friends are black.

          • In fact, they are. My Brother, whom I will always consider my Brother, saved my ass from getting beheaded back in the 80’s, when were were serving our great nation. Plus, I have many Black employees, some of them very good friends. Course, they are all well educated and Conservatives.

          • Arbeit Macht Frei

            So that exempts you from being a racist?

          • I’m not racists, it is the Liberals who are the Racists, especially the Black Liberals, horribly racist people. Why are you racist? With that dumb title from Hitler Days, the Nazis hated everyone, Blacks too, except for Muslims. Hitler loved his Muslims just like Merkel loves them. So, why are you Racists?

          • Arbeit Macht Frei

            stop digging

          • Not digging anything, especially your dumbed down replies. Now, go take your trolling Nazi Racist Ass to your safe place, Liberal Idiot!

          • Hey Troll, go back to sucking your boyfriend penis!

  • Joe samo

    How about government employees…like congressman.

    • Re

      Maybe a yearly test

    • Nathan Pinnhead

      And the President?

      • Joe samo

        The media and the dumb pinheads who are nothing more than socialist, fascist, fools.

        • Nathan Pinnhead

          dude, that feels like an insult.

  • james sanchez

    Yes, test all who receive government aid.

  • J jones

    Also all employers, schools, churches, hospitals. airports. make the IRS in charge of it.. Anyone with any illegal drug use must have this documented and be put on a national list.

    • Nathan Pinnhead

      along with a list of all gun owners.

      • J Jones

        No need if you’re on the other list you won’t be owning a gun

        • Nathan Pinnhead

          We demand to know who owns the 300 million guns.

          • J Jones

            Just make a list of people who don’t. They can have a sign out front of their house that says no firearms in this house. Oh and by the way watch the Netflix movie “first they killed my father” Then maybe you can try to understand or get it

  • Doug Ballou

    The heading says require, the lead-in says is considering, what gives? The war on drugs failed, ask POTUS, he knows that pain as much as anyone. If what you are doing does not work, you need to try something else.

  • Cbrown

    First: the government does NOT generate revenue; it source of money is from taxes. When you take money from the government then the government gets to tell you what to do. (One of the aspects of socialism I point out to my kids.) Nothing is for free. The government takes taxes out of my paycheck; unfortunately I don’t get to tell the government what to do with this money but this may be one small step in which the government actually allows me to put restrictions on where the money goes. I believe this is a good step. If the recipient really is trying to get their affairs in order and improve their lives, okay, but prove it. As for addiction, if they are getting money from the goverment then they should submit to a drug test.

  • Hyrdr

    Drug addiction is a choice not a disease.

    • Arbeit Macht Frei

      Trumpism is a disease and a choice.

      • Hyrdr

        Republiphobia is a disease. You would say that about any NON-Democrat not in power. Screw you is not a disease, it’s just screw you.

        • Arbeit Macht Frei

          Not all republicons would elicit that response. Trump is unique

      • Hyrdr

        Yes and it’s spreading as you’re masters are being exposed.

        • Arbeit Macht Frei

          Immunity to the trumpism disease is gained through sanity.

          • Hyrdr

            Republiphobia made you say that. Did you know that?

          • Arbeit Macht Frei

            Nope. Sanity made me say that.

          • Hyrdr

            No… No… You defiantly have acute pathogenic republiphobia. You are also in denial.

  • pemaddin

    We have to pass a drug test to be allowed to work. They absolutely do not have different rights than the working public and the law must apply to ALL.

    • Nathan Pinnhead

      including Trump.

  • Greg Thompson

    I’ve been approached many times outside the super market by people wanting to sell the food stamps in exchange for less than the face value for cash so the can buy drugs or alcohol.

  • Red

    NOW they need to work on WELFARE. Check those whom have been on WELFARE for an extended time, and they CAN’T say they don’t know, look at the; length of benefits that have recieved, what type of benefits, is the person working at a low paying job and needing supplements, kick off the dead beats

  • Jeffrey Martin

    I’m for drug testing and average 2-3 drug tests a year (I consult on sensitive projects). I only wonder if we hit a dilemma when testing in states that have legalized marijuana? It would be better if we could reconcile this difference between federal and state law or remove marijuana from the state drug test. Or is it the case that when federal welfare goes to a recipient, federal law applies. If we include marijuana in the state drug test where it is legal, should we then include all other drugs legal in that state such as nicotine and alcohol? At first glance, the answer appears to be Yes. But, at the same time, that doesn’t feel very correct..

  • Diane Coto

    This just makes sense to me. After all, before you’re hired for a job, you need to take a pee test. Why not make the unemployed accountable while they’re getting out money.

  • Jeff Jeep

    Test all guvmnt employees – that sounds great! I had to be tested for a private job so why not test ANYBODY who receives guvmnt assistance, money, income or unemployment (including politicians).

  • CALMLIKEABOMB

    So they want to drug test people who want to get the money they themselves put into a fund for unemployment? Does this mean we can demand THEY be drug tested for taking the money in the
    first place?

    • If you believe the person is just getting their own money back let’s end the program and let people save as they think necessary.

  • aldorey

    How are the Feds going to enforce this policy in states that sanction the use of recreational marijuana?

    • Drug testing can still be required for many jobs, even in those states. Just because it’s legal doesn’t mean you should or can use it.

      • Arbeit Macht Frei

        Does the pee test screen for alcohol?

  • Commentsbywanda

    WTH? Unemployment ?

    NEED TO START THIS TYPE OF REFORM WITH WELFARE, EBT, AND FOODSTAMPS RECIPIENTS FIRST(with special attention paid to DACA and any type of related chain migration,HB1,H2A,H2B, USA Green Card Lottery and all other visa related recipients .)

  • Hummer

    Lots of businesses and government agencies do drug testing all the time and randomly. Same should apply on unemployment and welfare as no one wants to hire a drug user or support an addiction. Good proactive thinking. It will weed out the fakers quickly. Obama seemed to have an obsession with kind of thing and turning loose felons-wonder why-a rhetorical question.

  • James Hulstine

    wait just a minute. people this is about Unemployment not welfare. in order to have unemployment you must First have to have had a JOB and YOU pay into that INSURANCE….. key word here is INSURANCE and YOU….. now I do understand that the payments YOU make while WORKING are small It’s still YOUR money making that PAYMENT read your Pay Stub. so it is my opinion that If I made payments to something then when I’m of need of using that Insurance Nobody has the right to tell me I must have a UA to use It! That would be the same as if having to give a UA prior to going to Doctor using your Medical Insurance or even going to see Dentist or Eye exams for yourself or family that’s on your Insurance plan. Let’s Not start spiking people to the Cross just yet OK. Let’s start making the efforts to PURG the system of Government Corruption by starting at the SORCE. Cut the head off the Snake Make our Elected GOVERMENT Officials who pass laws and Policies against us and for them be held accountable and start putting them in Jail…… No matter How hard they TRY to Suppress and CONTROL us the Common People we have this Wonderful Document that Protects All American Citizen……. Key WORD again American Citizen. NOT Illegal citizen or Alien man woman child but American Citizen….. OUR UNITED STATES OF AMERICA Constitution. WE THE PEOPLE NEED TO INFORCE THAT DOCUMENT.

  • MJABRTDK

    Wel fare was not set up as a permant means of income if your to lazy to work go hyunger, if you want to havew children with no husband and no means to raise them keep your skirt down. The American tax payers is feed up with paying for welfare mommy’s that keep having babies knowing the taxpayer will pick up the tab.

  • ocozmic1

    Hahahahahaha! So who will be paying for the urine tests? Not the unemployed!

    • Jon Mac

      Yes, when they get employed and it’s with-held from their first paychecks.

  • jane

    Makes no sense. Unemployment is for those transitioning from job loss to a new job. Now, lifetime welfare, yes.

  • jenshadus

    Anyone who gets a check from the government, directly or indirectly, should get the drug test. I’m a contractor, have had no notice drug tests for years.

    • Think 2 Moves Ahead

      Agree. I do agree the unemployment needs this since most hiring companies have required testing. Imagine the reputation damage when you send an applicant to a job interview, then applicant fails drug testing.

    • Arbeit Macht Frei

      Set up a pee test line at the senior center.

  • Zoey

    Oh dear,,,,,,the liberals will be furious that crack users will no longer be able to mooch of taxpayers.

  • Just don’t dare touch the $3.1 Billion in Welfare we sent Israel last year. And don’t expect them to piss in a cup before we give it to them so they can use their own money to provide free college for all Israeli while using our tax money to kill Palestinians.

  • Susie Que

    If president Trump would do the same for the welfare program he would cut crime in half, virtually stop illegal immigration and reduce our national debt over night!

    • Arbeit Macht Frei

      Myths

  • Roscoe

    Drug testing for ANY recipient of any federal tax payer dollars would be a better policy with random retests while receiving benefits with immediate suspension of benefits for any positive result. This would be a death knell for dopers and parasites.

  • Robert Sigler

    Let us hope welfare recipients are next.

  • Dan

    Love this article, but have a question…

    From the article: “This comes after $1.6 billion in unemployment benefits were paid to people not seeking work.”

    How was OANN able to determine the people were not seeking work? Or how did whatever agency determine this, and why didn’t the Unemployment agency do this themselves?

  • JuliVotes

    Other forms of welfare aren’t the same. When you are on unemployment you are supposed to be looking for a job. Most employers require a drug test so a person needs to be prepared to go to work. Come on – everyone knows how to pass a drug test anyway.

  • Richard

    They had it made, get high, stay at home,do nothing while the employed paid there bills. Its about damn time this is happening!!

  • Libhunter

    Mandatory Drug testing for any public monies!

  • magatastic

    drug testing, yes! and any form of taxpayer funded welfare should limited to a set time….1 year for example not in generational timelines!

  • willnkc

    Anybody can beat these tests, they are ineffectual.

  • willnkc

    Anybody can beat these tests, they are ineffectual.

    • Enigma

      Not sure what world you live in but in my world I have seen many, many people flunk ’em……

      • willnkc

        Because they are too stupid to know how to beat them.

        • Enigma

          Oh, I see, sorry. So people who try to abide by laws are stupid because they don’t know how to break them. Understood. You’re probably also the type that doesn’t follow driving laws because those, also, are for stupid people.

          Oh well……..

  • Jenny O

    This sounds like something individual states may choose not to enforce. Unemployment tax rates for employers is state regulated. That’s why unemployment benefits can be higher in one state over another.

  • Jenny O

    This sounds like something individual states may choose not to enforce. Unemployment tax rates for employers is state regulated. That’s why unemployment benefits can be higher in one state over another.

    • Enigma

      Which means that states like CALI are fixing to receive a bunch of scumbags……

      • Jenny O

        Certainly what crossed my mind…

  • 🐯 TigerBear 🐻

    Funny how only workers get hit with these drug tests yet those we are carrying get their money for free from the government after forcibly taking it from the workers. Better to just apply for welfare than the unemployment benefits you and your employer paid for! /s😳🙄

    • Jenny O

      When did you pay your own unemployment tax?

  • Marc S.

    Each day under this president is a blessing. MAGA. Thank you President Trump!

  • LIZARDMANSC52

    Expand that to WELFARE, EBT, PUBLIC HOUSING, and every other GIMME program.

    • Arbeit Macht Frei

      Social Security, Medicare, mortgage deduction, corporate welfare, etc

  • Bill

    I owned storage units in the city. You can buy Food stamps $.50 on the $1.00 all day long… Drugs were everywhere. Unemployment off the charts…

  • Lance H

    There needs to be common sense requirements for unemployment benefits. One is that the recipient demonstrates that he or she is looking for work, and another is that the recipient is subject to random drug tests as long as they’re taking benefits. If I have to pass drug tests to work and contribute to the various welfare programs, by God you’d better be able to pass a drug test to get the handouts that I worked to help provide you!

  • WBH

    the problem is that government does not have the WILL to do what is right. If you deny someone welfare because they use drugs, then you must have a plan for the consequences of that; people will riot or commit crimes because they or their family is/are starving. Some may starve to death. In the long term, this is the right move because it forces people who can work to seek work where work is available. but in the short term, the local politicians are usually too weak to stand firm. Government has been appeasing / calming urban blacks with welfare for generations because the local politicians cannot see any other way to keep the peace. The problem with current POTUS is that he is not strong enough! He can see the right path clearly but he can’t do much without the support of the congress and courts.

    • jvlewis

      First of all, you go straight for people of color. Not all druggies on welfare are black. There is a fairly high percentage of whites too. Second, I remember a young black woman saying to a reporter that the greatest thing that happened to her was when she lost her welfare and was forced to get a job. She discovered she had skills and along with that found her self-esteem.

  • Clinicaleducator1

    This will drop the rolls by at least 50%. Significant savings to tax payers.

  • Laurie

    Employers are well within their right to require a drug test of a potential employee. If the potential employee wants the job, they won’t do drugs and submit to and pass a test.

  • Ccdelkin

    Who is going to pay for the drug tests?

  • semper liber

    This is a great idea and a great start.

  • Wanda

    Many people have to get drug tested as condition of employment. This makes sense.

  • kjenkinsaf

    A buddy of mine stated that “if my life is so messed (sic) up that I have to take a handout then I’d need drugs to see mr through”.

  • kjenkinsaf

    A buddy of mine stated that “if my life is so messed up that I have to take a handout (sic), then I’d need drugs to see mr through”.

  • Scotty

    Another step in the right direction. Keep it coming Mr. President.

  • Marty Kirkpatrick

    Where is the push to require them for government officials? Regularly.?

  • bagman

    If employers can require drug testing for continued employment then the government should be able to require it for receiving any type of benefit.
    I worked for a company that required unscheduled (surprise) drug testing.

    • CDG

      True. Many companies today require drug screens before hire.

      • SWSapphire

        Walmart & local schools did… at least b/f O. Don’t know if it’s still policy. In the schools, you had to pay for your bkgd. check, but they paid for the drug test.

  • Turbojt

    For purposes of this post, let’s assume that some form of drug testing is mandated. Question … is marijuana a drug? What of the 28 states that has made medical marijuana legal or the approx. 8 states that have legalized recreational marijuana. Will we have every unemployed person that otherwise qualifies for unemployment compensation denied on the basis of a failed drug test in all states or just those states where it is illegal.

    This issue of drug testing seems to me that it would force the federal government to take a stand on the legalization of marijuana. In an election year, I don’t believe that the federal government would be able to push either the issue of drug testing or legitimizing a state’s right to legalize some form of marijuana use.

    What do others think?

    • letsdance

      I think if drug testing has continued with companies that hire employees then the unemployment seeking individuals should also be tested. I am pro legalization but there is a few that will NOT work when they smoke so those are the ones that need to feel the pain of not being supported while they stay stoned.
      And if they want to test for marijuana, they should have an equal test for alcohol! I don’t care if it is legal or not, a drunk is a danger to the workforce even more so than a stoner!

      • Turbojt

        I agree that the physically able, but lazy stoner with pot in his system should not get tax supported benefits. But what kind of regulatory nightmare to separate that kind of individual from the person with a medical marijuana card that helps them with their condition so that they could work if only they could find employment or say the temporarily unemployed person actively looking for work who lights up on Saturday night with friends enjoying some R & R in a recreational type state.
        The same regulatory nightmare would ensue when a person with a prescription for an opioid medication was drug tested.

        The alcohol issue is a little different in that a responsible user can indulge of an evening or weekend and still be capable of working (when employment is found) whereas I believe marijuana stays in your system for days or weeks. What kind of drug (or alcohol) testing system could separate the responsible user of either item from the abuser.

        • letsdance

          There is a mouth swab that only shows THC use up to 48 hours before the swab was taken. To me, that is enough to weed out the recreational user from the diehard stoner that has no ambition to do anything but stay hi.
          We have a few grocery store chains that use the swab so I know it is out there.

    • Goonie

      What are employers doing in these states?

      • CDG

        My cousin is in Alaska (legalized State) and smokes. He said they treat it like alcohol. Don’t show up to work high.

    • mbrewer566

      The Federal Government took a stand decades ago. Agree or not, marijuana is illegal under Federal Law. I don’t really agree, but the law needs to be changed. The Feds don’t go after the states since it’s hardly worth the effort…

      • Turbojt

        “The feds don’t go after…..As of this morning there has been a change in the federal position – see the headline above.

        Trump Administration to Move to Weaken Marijuana Legalization Movement

    • CDG

      Legally, it would seem if someone is applying for State benefits then State law would apply. Unemployment benefits are paid through both State and Federal taxes but as the States run the unemployment program I would think State law would apply in legalized marijuana States. I would hope medical evidence would be required to support marijuana use in those States when applying for benefits.

  • Joe

    Right lets start drug testing drug testing people who lost a job through no fault of their own. If your on drugs and get fired because of it you won’t be able to collect unemployment anyway. But people on welfare are sacred and untouchable

  • Tyrone

    We take drug tests in order to be employed and earn our money.
    They can take the same drug test to be UNemployed and take OUR money.

  • bonni✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ✝ 💥

    To get Unemployment you had to have had a job.. but are temporarily unemployed.. You paid for this out of your check.. and any unemployment money you receive is taxed..

    Why not tax the welfare people..?:??? NOT FAIR Make them prove they are job worthy?

  • Harold Swift

    OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!

  • Glenda Hammer

    Stop giving welfare to millions of illegals, while they’re at it.
    Stop draining the taxpayers of hundreds of billions of dollars every year for people who came here over or under a fence, or in the back of a truck. Do this right!

    • Stonecrusher

      The same applies to those Dreamers who feel entitled. They may not have made the decision to enter with their illegal parents, but they aren’t anchor babies either. They are still here illegally. Any absolution must start at the office of immigration applying for a visa and a green card – just like any other legal immigrant.

  • phicrappazappa

    Anyone on the Government”s teat (taxpayer’s wallet) should be required to test. Let’s start with Congress.

    • Harold Swift

      That ain’t gonna fly

  • Christopher Binkowski

    No problem. Except, sometimes those tests will pick up minute amounts of opiates in your system, even from poppy seed laden bagels.

    • Harold Swift

      SO BE IT

      • Christopher Binkowski

        “You do not realize that it is better for you that one man die for the people than that the whole nation perish.” John 11:50

  • inAK

    There are hundreds of thousands of people on social security disability that have never paid one penny into the system. Alcoholism qualifies as a disability, the drunks get a check every month from ss disabilty. The libtards are working to get marijuana use qualified as a disabilty next, guess who will be enrolled next for those benefits??

    • Harold Swift

      The piggy bank is broken

  • Scott

    If you think of Democrats think waste of money for they come up with the best ideas to waste tax dollars on drug users for they are Democrat type of people with Lawyers and lobbyist in DC and in every state capita for what use are they for working normal people. Lawyers run the DNC and the President is not lawyer so DC Democrats hate that idea for lawyers know how to regulate using the force of the law but not create wealth that only want to take from wealth.

    How to make American weak and dishonest vote democrat a large group of dishonest people. I say that for Democrats support illegal criminals like MS 13 gangs and illegals over citizens in welfare and education for they vote Democrat in Calif. If your Democrat you must be illegal criminal drug user a welfare users or lawyer then you have government workers like teachers telling students to be Marxist and not teaching American history and how great we are. The you have group of Democrats that are brainwashed like Media people they do know so little about American only about them self.

    Democrats are lobbyist as will as lawyers then judges are Democrats. Government workers have to be Democratic. Hollywood people and rich people that are Democrat are in fear of being looked at badly for if they say they are Democrats people do not see their wealth only wealth that gives to them which is joke.

  • Tom Horn

    So much fraud in welfare. Obama enabled that.

    • SWSapphire

      Yes – tho it already existed, he easily exponentially accelerated the fraud, quicker than anyone could have imagined(even libs are prob. surprised… yet for the most part happy about it).

      Btw, contrary to another post, fraud is not due to walking in w/a paper stating you have ADHD or bipolar. 5% – 1 in 20 – have ADHD, incl. me. I will never qualify for SSDI. I’m not disabled enough to not work-though either of those disorders are limiting. Thank you Joseph Ritalin!! My life improved dramatically since I discovered my situation 12 yrs. ago & got treatment. But even b/f, I was capable of work.
      (*It does affect my posting, esp. as I get older. I have trouble editing… or finding words at times- in case anyone ever notices-lol).

      It used to take 3 yrs., an atty. & a lot more in many SSDI cases, and was even worse under O.
      Ex. -Those w/multiple sclerosis affecting their ability to walk, or to work for more than 10 mins. at a time, or w/debilitating pain such as the sensation of boiling water over their hands – these were turned down on the 1st attempt under O. B/c as usual, O was not for helping those who actually needed & legally entitled to it. Then further delayed, as the gov’t. atty. wasn’t yet ‘prepared’ for the case, though the claimant was responsible to show up in court, regardless.

      O loved those not looking for jobs & having more babies, working the system, any committing fraud, but esp. illegals, as they meant votes for libs only.
      (The same reason he allowed our finest to be left in Benghazi. He wanted everything to appear calm & under control, even though it never was. Is it ever worth… votes?? Rambling-but what occurred there is so enraging.)

  • Phi Lemon

    Let’s face it — this is beginning to have an appearance of becoming somewhat increasingly unwieldy

  • Scott Henke

    GOOD! I know too many people who game the system enough.

  • Sturgeon General

    I don’t think this will pass OTHER than for the federal extensions that were freely handed out during the Obama cure for recession years. Remember Nancy claiming every dollar paid in unemployment created two dollars in the economy so while the Obama regime was paying people not to work for an extra two years, they were really doubling their money. /s

  • Jesse

    Why would you seek work if you can lay around doped out all day on someone else’s dime? This is the best thing I’ve heard in weeks.

  • Expat47

    About time!! Add in ALL government handouts too!

  • DCBlueBlood

    How many Pee Aministrators are we hiring Nationwide? How many test cups are we going to go through?

    1,000 Cups wholesale is $6.55/per cup. ($6,550.00)

    This has been tried in other states like Flori-DUH where it proved out that less than 2% failed the drug test.

    Waste of money and time. Great for Drug Cup Manufacturers and those that get to watch people pee in a cup I guess.

    What’s Unemployment worth $250/Wk. Ooooh so you kick 20 People off the dole till they pass (in less than 30 days)

    20 People getting paid $9.00/Hour to watch the pee pee people = $7200
    So 20 Minimum Pee Pee Administrators X $250 = $5,000

    So it costs the state $6550 in cups add admin/pee pee takers + 7200 So basically $13,750.00 to save $5,000 a Week in Unemployment. Must be RepubliCon Stupid Math at Work Here!

    Send it off to a LabCorp and the cost goes to $45/Per Sample. Good Luck with this Golden Shower Bill!

    • Jesse

      $6.55 a cup? These tests are not done at NASA facilities.

    • phicrappazappa

      Get back to us after you’ve taken the test.

  • digipanic

    Unemployed should not take financial benefits for unemployment (that 26 weeks amount or less) if they are spending any amount of money they don’t have or get for free, on drugs.

  • Lenny Woodson

    How’s pot going to be handled? Federally seriously illegal but legal state by state. ?????

    • My Sharoner

      Federal law should trump state law therefore the recipient has to take the piss test. If they fail no more free ride.

  • harlansteve@ymail.com

    How about Senators and the Congress.
    Should be mandatory to enter a race and randomly tested each month until the election is over.

    • phicrappazappa

      And if elected, monthly until term expires.

  • Rufus Firefly

    Let’s start with mental health testing for *President Trump. And the release of the past 10 years’ tax returns.

  • ProudAmericanVet

    Piss test every able bodied soul sucking up freebies at taxpayers expense.

    • Greg Waters

      As long as I am not forced into what should be a voluntary system.
      That is why I work for my self and am incorporated. I don’t fall under labor law. I worked with a guy last month that panicked every time he went over five hours without punching out for lunch. I told him…I am a free man. I pay my own taxes, I don’t collect unemployment. I don’t file sexual harassment charges against myself. I am a free man.

      • phicrappazappa

        You pay from the fruits of your labor what the government demands that you pay. That is not free, that is slavery.

  • Horacio Hornblower

    Who pays for the drug tests?

    • Jesse

      Comes out of your first check if you pass. The fails? Well they don’t collect anything so the money that would have been wasted on them more than pays for their test.

  • KevinR.

    Unemployment should not be a lifestyle….

    Employers pay for unemployment insurance, so fund unemployment benefits…. it was intended to be short term.

    Along with testing….for unemployment,

    Drug test for welfare, EBT / SNAP (food stamps)…cut welfare, food stamps…. stop allowing food stamps being used for candy, junk food…sodas… (food stamps in the past could only be used for food, nutritional food ingredients, flour, sugar, eggs, ground meat, bread, to take home and prepare a meal.)… not for chips, sodas, honeybuns, or pre-made sandwiches… at the convenience store..

    Cut! and Drug Test!

    • Greg Waters

      It is worse now. A few years ago they had to drop the requirement that you had a place to prepare food to get food stamps…that left out all the homeless people. So they now allow EBT to be used for fast food. Due to that our MediAid bill will go through the roof.

    • SWSapphire

      Wow… things changed a lot(for the worse) under O. I was on a Dublin flight on my way to move permanently to the UK on Nov.6, 2012, when the Irish pilot announced the winner of the U.S. election. O bummer. So I mostly see the changes when I return about once a yr. to the U.S. I didn’t know about that one. Last few yrs.(2015-6), though, discovered a couple of shocking changes in the way gov’t. was run.

  • mcsincnj

    Like Nike, JUST DO IT

  • marcthepig

    If they want testing for someone getting a check from the government, let’s start with mandatory testing for all members of Congress and their staffs.
    First failure: Warning
    Second failure: Two weeks off without pay.
    Third failure: You get fired and a bus ticket home.

    • landwell

      Three Strikes and your out – third failed test you lose your job and can’t hold another federal job.

      • tedlv

        With government contractors I worked with, one strike, you’re out.

        • Larry Spiller

          I have been on a job site when the Pee Wagon rolled in. Some of the guys would collect their tools and belongings and head for the gate never to be seen again on the site, without even testing. Grown Men, Tradesmen, making a great union wage with all the benefits that go with it. Running for the gate because of a Pee Test. Heck I even remember when our Company/OSHA/ Safety/Medical First Responder/Chaplain Man got ran off for a failed test too. I must have been a terrible hand that could pass the Pee Test. Because they trained me up to be that guy. Wish I’d been that guy earlier on. Might not be so gimped up now. Peace.

  • brad m

    All federal government welfare first off should stop and states can pick it up. With that said, all welfare should require drug testing due to taxpayers footing this expense. My personal opinion is that government welfare on all levels should go away and we should shift back to charities doing these functions. Government uses laws which are shall issue if requirements are met, so abuse can be more easily accomplished. Charities that are found to be supporting abuse will most likely stop receiving funding and charities are not shall issue institutions and can therefore cut off an abuser without a act of changing a law. The free market will help regulate the charities whereas, the free market cannot regulate government. Government has a monopoly on the use of force for not following laws.

  • Boris Alexander Friderici

    I believe, that people six king unemployment benefits or any other benefit, should be first investigating why not working, what are reasons for si king benefits,legal status in the country and mainly if the subject is using drugs. Drug testing should be the very first step.

  • tedlv

    Since 1985, I have been required to take initial and random alcohol and drug tests in order to work and pay taxes that these losers us to buy drugs. It’s time for them to undergo the same testing I had to.

    • Andrew Moore8

      Ted, I was unemployed 7 times in my airline career…the longest for two years during a downturn…Not once did I ever use illegal drugs…I think you are confusing the unemployed with the welfare crowd….this rule will only affect the ones who are willing to work and follow the rules anyway…..so I don’t see much of an outcome other than down the line the government saying “see there isn’t rampant drug usage in our entitlement programs”…..of course not because they tested the group that wouldn’t do them because they are seeking employment.

      • tedlv

        You are in no way the “these losers” I was referring to! I have also been on unemployment, but would have willingly taken drug and alcohol tests, had they been required. You’re absolutely right in your comment!

        • Andrew Moore8

          I assumed you were talking more about the welfare crowd rather than the unemployment crowd…I would like to see them tested as well and also would have taken a drug test as well….alcohol? Not so much…I like my beer waaaayyyyy to much and when i was unemployed my friends would always buy the rounds.

          • tedlv

            If we had a blood alcohol count of 0.02, we got a warning, and a day off without pay. 0.03 or more an we would be fired.i like my beer too! 🍺

  • CCTexas

    Yes, excellent idea. Even the military demands random drug screening. This should be a requirement for ALL FEDERAL EMPLOYEES, even Members of Congress. There should be equality for all of those drinking from the trough.

  • Greg Waters

    Yes, corruption is the biggest problem. Uranium One ring a bell?
    DC does have the highest consumption of alcohol per capita

  • All those California pot smokers are going to be bummed….

    • Greg Waters

      Their all going to be rich! I am sure they invested in pot farms. The drug dealing mobs and gangs are going to be bummed. Instead of the money enriching them it will be taxed and fed to the government, hopefully all given to an anti-crime task force.

      • No because dealers that use their own product go broke. And yes, if they’re selling, they are dealers. Don’t think for a minute that drug gangs (and all that goes with it) are going out of business.

        • tedlv

          We’ll see. Pot isn’t the only drug.

        • SWSapphire

          Many dealers aren’t users. But, I agree, if they use, they’ll eventually go broke as their addiction becomes stronger & they go onto more illicit drugs & their working hrs. become more limited, as they increasingly need a new fix.
          New dealers will then be selling to them.

      • Andrew Moore8

        Wouldn’t the drug dealers just go legit and sell legally?

        • huntress

          No, they’ll start pushing heroin, duh. Kinda what they’re doing now

        • Greg Waters

          Once they go legal they will no longer be crooks. Legal enterprise doesn’t pay like crime does. What drove the illicit drug trade was the risk of being caught. Now they may as well be growing lettuce or radishes.

  • Transpare

    {This comes after $1.6 billion in unemployment benefits were paid to people not seeking work.}

    If these people put as much effort into their job and getting ahead as they do in trying to scam the system…

    • Andrew Moore8

      To them trying to scam the system IS the job.

  • Brad

    Been waiting for this many years, it is about time. However the obummer liberal courts will shut this down. Actually judges need to be part of random testing process.

    • Pezgun

      I’m for putting them on unployment first.

    • Another Deplorable

      Yeah, but unfortunately “stupid” and “waythehelloutinliberalleftfield stupid” aren’t considered drugs.

  • Think 2 Moves Ahead

    I have to be drug tested and fingerprinted to earn wages which are taxed. I would require both for welfare, plus showing up at an assigned time to learn the skill of waking up and going to work. While there, a broom, soap and scrub brush to clean the location where they live. A welfare place should be very clean.

  • Johnny Mountain

    Drug test the Trump Administration and all politicians. Trumps base will starve if this happens.

    • Greg Waters

      Actually, that is entirely incorrect. Based on the looks of Antifa, the more you dislike Trump the more of a miscreant as well.

      • Johnny Mountain

        The more you comment the dumber you look .

        • Greg Waters

          Thanks!

          • Rick

            Ha ha! Hey Greg, I’ve seen some really pretty looking people (all Trump haters) that are just dumber than a box of rocks!

          • Greg Waters

            It isn’t that liberals are dumb. There are some very intellectual liberals out there. It is that they have believed the lie…they have fallen under a spell, a strong delusion as the Bible says. The Bible says that God will use the things of the foolish to confound the wise. Or ‘The Fool Says in His Heart, There is No God.’ They have been given over to a reprobate mind. Sound like Antifa? sound like Anthony Weiner?

          • Rick

            Very good. 2Thess2:10,11. It sounds like a large segment of America. But God forgives nations who repent.

  • Robert Sigler

    Lets randomly drug test all our elected officials, it would be good for a laugh.

    • KD

      I like the idea!

    • Greg Waters

      Why randomly? Why not polygraph tests?
      Why not just fire 90% of them?

      • KD

        well random is all thats needed……more cost efficient for taxpayers……just the possibility is enough to make majority stay off drugs…….and once you have drug testing, word gets around on who needs to be tested 🙂

        • Greg Waters

          I don’t think drugs is the biggest problem with the government officials. I think the lobbyist, self-dealing and corruption is the bigger problem. DC consumes more alcohol than anywhere else in the country per capita.

          • KD

            agree its not the biggest problem, but it’s def. one piece of the solution……fraud in so many different ways on all these programs is rampant and this drug testing is just one step to trying to fix it. What I have a huge problem is illegal immigrants signed up fraudulently on welfare and other gov. programs…..signed up illegally in most cases by DEMwits…….now that BS pisses me off thinking about it!

            This needs to be cracked down on big time! and I think its much bigger problem than anyone even realizes! most likely in the millions of illegals signed up on crap! and don’t even ask me about the illegal voting they do! that should be at top of Trumps list too!

          • Greg Waters

            It is a huge problem. The illegals get welfare benefits and then work under the table for cash. We (the American worker) are subsidizing those who would undercut us. Completely unfair.
            I won’t join the Chamber of Commerce because they are pushing open borders

  • Matt

    it’s a start
    We are a Republic, Not a Socialist state
    Get a Job

    • KD

      Yeah most demwits think welfare is some kind of god given right…..its owed to them from birth

      • Greg Waters

        I agree with the welfare part. But UI is not welfare. It is an insurance policy, mandated by the government.

    • Greg Waters

      But we are not a Totalitarian State either. I have less of a problem with the drug testing than the idea of forced participation in an insurance policy I never use.

  • Don’t Tase Me Bro!

    Unemployment insurance is paid for by employers. It is not tax-payer funded on a scale like welfare. I do believe some of the services are tax-funded, but most are employer paid. I understand the idea of wanting to drug test, but I don’t believe they should have this right for something that is mostly paid for by private companies.

    • Greg Waters

      Now you got it. I hate the drug culture but erosion of liberties is a constant battle. We have to prefer liberty over security, as the founding fathers said. Or you will have neither.

  • Greg Waters

    The truth is unemployment is not in existence to help unemployed workers. If you take a freshman class in Macro Economics you will find it is what is called an Economic Stabilizer. It takes money out of circulation during the boom times when the inflation rate is starting to climb and is re-injected into the system during times of contraction. This is the absolute verifiable truth.

  • KD

    why shouldn’t they be drug tested? gov. employees get tested……all kinds of people do for jobs…….they should not be getting taxpayer help if they are using drugs…..period!

    • Greg Waters

      That’s fine, if it were taxpayer money. It is derived from insurance premiums paid out of money you earn your employer by your work product.
      The government is the leach in all of these programs.
      I don’t take drugs but I don’t submit to testing…period And I won’t be part of a system or a package of benefits or entitlements that requires it. Don’t take the money from me. Wait until they decide that you can’t receive our social security if you have been naughty? Maybe you gambled some at the slots. Declined!

      • KD

        well those employer paid benefits go up then for unemployment ins. ………..then that’s less they have to pay their employers in increased wages….right?

        • Greg Waters

          You men UI is a part of our compensation package, in a loose sort of way?

          • KD

            if its a cost of hiring employees, its overhead, and its definitely a cost of doing business and is considered when people hire/add new employees……..and I’m sure UI ins. today doesn’t cost the same as it did 10 yrs. ago….it increases

            and if its like any other ins……..the more claims a co. has, most likely makes their UI more expensive…..thats the way ins. works……but those people getting it are supposed to be looking and able to work…….on drugs doesn’t sound like they are quiet able to work…….

          • Greg Waters

            Agreed. I just hate this whole network of benefits. I wish we could be free to just work and negotiate our own deals. The government should have never gotten into this business of the general welfare of the people. Push come to shove, people will always figure out a way to earn enough for the bare necessities. The system is so easily corrupted.
            It has to do with our Sin Nature. Without it everyone’s motives would be pure.

  • Pat S.

    That should save us a lot of money!

    • Greg Waters

      It will save us a lot of money if they cancel the whole program and let us keep our money.

      • Pat S.

        Have you ever lost a job? and needed it? I have, didn’t like it, only had it for a very short time as job hunting was a priority. I’m glad it was there but there are those who like anything else will abuse the program.

        • Greg Waters

          Understood. It can be a lifesaver. I don’t mind that we have UI. I hate the fraud and now, with the testing, I hate the control.
          Our economy is like a race horse just chomping at the bit. If we could only pare government back to where it should be, and unleash our true potential, the workers would have far more. All of the taxations and the regulations only help the really large corporations…its called an Oligarchy. It tromps down the small companies with weight that only a large company can handle. For example, under current litigious employment law you need a full time HR manager. The catch is, only a company with 150 employees or larger can afford one.

  • Jackie Nanney

    Isnt half of unemployment paid by the worker? The other half paid by the employer? CMIIWrong. Is this big brothers decision to make?

    • Greg Waters

      It is all paid by the employer, but I digress. Just like your FICA, which the employer pays half and you pay half, it matters not whether it is paid before your check is written. In other words, it was removed from the value of your work product before the check was written, and had they not deducted it prior to your check being written, could have paid you all that money on your check. The accounting/legal definition is the money is FUNGIBLE.

  • Martif

    Drug test federal employees, including congress, as well.

    • Greg Waters

      Yes sir. Now we are getting somewhere

    • Nathan Pinnhead

      and Trump.

      • Greg Waters

        Hey Pinnhead…welcome back!

      • Greg Waters

        Unfortunately, Congress does not adhere to the laws they pass. Remember the exemption to Obamacare they wrote in?

      • huntress

        Trump does not drink or take drugs unlike okenyan, hildebeast, bill (i didn’t inhale) bs.
        What else ya got genius?

  • Greg Waters

    I’m a Christian. Next there will be a Christianity test. Or a values test…So, how do you feel about homosexuality? Oh, that’s right, they already do that. HR handles it through their training programs…

    • Pat S.

      Stop wearing your religion out on your sleeve, it insults other christians, Actions speak much louder than words. Anyone can yap!

      • Greg Waters

        What is that supposed to mean?

        • Pat S.

          Your a Christian, so am I, when you go out of your way to make others know without anything other than just saying it then what are you saying? “hey look at me I’m Christian because I said so”? I think your a true Christian but actions – not self promotion.

          • Greg Waters

            No, not at all. The point was to, well, make a point. The same neo-puritanical control freak liberals that want to take our money and then give it back aren’t just contented just to do so with drugs, but also faith. If you decline to bake a cake for a homosexual couple because your faith, then you can be ostracized, fined, and jailed. Right now having Christian values is a greater impediment to employment than is drug use.
            We all have to hang together or we will all certainly hang separately.
            Keep America free, and restore past freedoms we lost.

          • Pat S.

            True, now’s when our actions speak the loudest as Christians.

  • eladtoor

    Wow, talk about boosting the stock market! It’s gonna go through the roof!!

    And the leader will be the first corporation that dominates the ‘clean urine’ market, Goldman will be heavily invested in whoever does that, so if you have a workable plan to collect and dispense clean urine to the unemployed, and you need a few hundred Mil$ to kick it off, stop at the Goldman-Sachs office on The Street, and take the elevator to the top.

  • Ed L

    Amen a good start.

  • rodney mcleod

    AWESOME!!!

  • Linda Griffin

    This should be required for anyone seeking government benefits especially foreigners and any welfare recipients. It’s just common sense which is severely lacking in our bureaucracy.

    • Greg Waters

      Agreed, to protect our treasury. But Unemployment Insurance is not welfare or an entitlement, it is a forced participation insurance policy to guarantees you a certain amount of money if you are out of work. You yourself pay the premiums. Why are all of the bloggers on this thread in such a hurry to subrogate their rights as citizens?
      This is the camel’s nose under the tent…

      • Pat S.

        Many receive far beyond what they pay in or have you forgot the Obama endless payments?

        • Greg Waters

          Agreed. It is really a redistribution of assets from the thrifty to the slug. The way it is structured, anyone can get any kind of a job and make more money than they get. It is only good if you don’t want to work. If you want to use it as a paid vacation, it is a windfall.

    • Disgusted Caucasian

      The same lack of common sense like requiring voters to have ID. The demonrats will make just as much fuss about this too.

  • survivor50

    Seriously…why wasn’t this done in the past ???
    Oh yeah…OBAMA…Democrats…liberals…
    DRUG TEST EVERYBODY !!! You flunk, no soup for you !!!

    • Greg Waters

      You are wrong. This is a liberal policy. Remember the individual mandate in Obamacare? Liberal.

      • survivor50

        Did you see the word…” LIBERAL ” in the message??? THEY didn’t want it done…

        • Greg Waters

          Maybe it is there, but believe me, just like Obamacare and the individual mandate, this is not the way to protect the treasury. Make UI voluntary just like any other insurance policy. State Farm will cancel me if I get a DUI.
          Liberals love entitlement programs and they like to control who gets the money. This is how you manage the masses. I don’t want to be managed. The creation is subject to the creator. The states created the federal government, and the citizens created the states. Control is currently flowing in the wrong direction. Cancel all government programs, farm subsidies, etc. and fire the 30,000 Federal bureaucrats that make more than ANY sitting State Governors. We are upside down.

          • Pat S.

            You make a good point however until the Federal Govt. spends our, (tax payers) responsibly then we make this an option.
            Remember it’s not Federal funds it’s OUR TAX DOLLARS, paid for by you, me and other hard working citizens.

          • Greg Waters

            Agreed…but why force our participation in a policy we don’t want? Unemployment never is a good deal for me. I am entirely too entrepreneurial. There is always something to do. These programs are only good for fraudsters.

          • Pat S.

            Not always, you want to paint the program as everyone receiving benefits is a fraud, I think as many people are good citizens and have no intention on bilking the system, make it difficult for anyone who has been taking advantage.

  • iwish

    Same policy for Congress and their clan of workers……….ALL OF D.C.

    • survivor50

      Agreed…every so often randomly…

  • survivor50

    OMG !!!
    I can see the flames licking off the hair of MILLIONS of pointy liberal heads now… while they SCREAM at the sky…
    MAGA

    • Greg Waters

      Actually, liberals love rules like this. They are the ultimate control freaks. It’s the libertarians that are going to go nuts, myself included. I don’t take drugs and I drink very little, like one beer a week, but I do love my liberties. The founding fathers would be rolling over in their graves with this one.
      I have walked away from some companies that really wanted to hire me because they had a mandatory drug test. I told them straight up you have the right to test as long as you test all, but you won’t be testing me. They knew my character, the type of person I was and really wanted to hire me. Someone has to throw themselves into the gears to stop this Totalitarian madness.

      • survivor50

        I OWN the company…I’ll take the test with all the employees.

        • Greg Waters

          I one a consulting firm. I absolutely refuse to do this to my employees. I hire carefully.
          It is easy to roll over, but you are not seeing what is coming downstream. This is pure Totalitarian Fascism, not at all a Conservative or Libertarian viewpoint. The fact that the government requires us to pay UI premiums is bad enough.
          Did you ever ask yourself ‘ why am I responsible for withholding taxes from my employees checks? Not your job to collect someone else’s taxes.

      • Linda Griffin

        You must be a denial druggie. It wouldn’t be any skin off your nose to take the test otherwise.

        • Greg Waters

          It is the principle of the matter. I am a free man. Something that this generation cannot understand, after generations of brain washing. How about if they come out with a new one…where everywoman has to pass a virginity test? Get the point?

          • Pat S.

            Greg, what’s worse, this or the fact I paid into SSI for many years but I’m still taxed for it

          • Greg Waters

            Social Security is totally unconstitutional. It was declared so twice by the Supreme Court, but coming out of the Great Depression, the Populist people wanted bread and circuses. It was supposed to be a fraction of what it is now. Right now SSI and Medicare combined, both portions, is 15.3%. That is a huge number, considering that is off of our gross income. If you take it as a percentage of our net after State and Federal taxes, it could be 25-35%. That is pure Socialism. And they have spent all of the money. It has been robbed from the SS fund and put into the general fund with an IOU instead. The government is going to fail soon, based on the indebtedness. Then this will all come into resolution for everyone.

          • Pat S.

            What is the biggest part of the budget… social handouts! Vote buying. Like I said, they call it federal funding I call it tax payers money spent irresponsibly.

          • huntress

            Be “a free man all you want”, but you take MY tax dollars, you will be drug tested. HAS ZERO TO DO WITH YOUR DERANGED PERCEPTION OF WHAT IS CONSIDERED “FREE”. Get a clue!

      • huntress

        Holy mac. What planet are you from?

  • a voice of concern

    WOW, this is huge

  • intimeforthedime

    Anyone that works, gets, makes, or bids on anything state, local or government should be required to submit to random drug tests?
    I think they should give you a random when you are arrested also.
    Speeding ticket? Here is a cup sir.
    Need a loan? Take this into the bathroom and filler up.
    Drive a cab? Filler up.
    TSA? Filler Up!
    Run for office? Fill it up!
    Drive a school bus? Put it past the line.
    Teach? Get in line and fill it up.
    Police? Here you go officer.
    Hey you over there walking down the street! Filler up pal.

    • huntress

      Move to nk

  • Jacobeo500

    !!VERY GOOD!! I had to pee in a cup in order to get a good paying job and if I wanted to keep that good paying job I had to go through this procedure at regular intervals unannounced. This same rule should apply to all persons receiving any kind of federal, state or local assistance.
    In fact, this harsh measure is the only true way of getting this mighty nation off, pot, coke, heroin and any other substance abuse. Make it a federal law that every person must be drug checked at the work place and all those testing positive should lose their jobs and paychecks…the powerful drug cartels would be out of customers in less time than you can say “Barrack Hussein Obama pothead”.

    • Greg Waters

      Just don’t make paying premiums for a policy you don’t want mandatory. The government is not in the business to provide insurance,
      Military and Borders, Court System, only

      • Pat S.

        Me again, then shouldn’t we look at everything that remotely resembles pay out’s like disaster funds, insuring our defense, SSI, the list can go on for days. Where do you stop or start.

    • intimeforthedime

      Although I agree with you, the drug testing corruption would begin and a “pay to pass” level would be created.
      We have all witnessed the “look the other way” pee test for the old guy the company needs to keep that work coming in from the big client.
      The there is NO way the drug cartels would allow this to stop their profits.
      Already drugs get through the jail police, border police, FBI, you name it, it walks right past em.

  • TEXAS HEALTH NUT

    There is so much fraud in all welfare….mothers that collect checks for kids that don’t even live with them!
    Drug users that only care about getting high and find a way to collect.
    There are soooo many people out there that could be working, but just won’t!!
    There is FRAUD….serious FRAUD in ALL PROGRAMS!!
    Go get’em!!

    • Greg Waters

      Just don’t charge me premiums for those things I don’t want.
      Social Security and Medicare are 15.3% of our gross income, up to certain limits above $100,000. By the time you back out all State and Federal income taxes it is more like 25% of our gross earnings. If I had 25% of all the money I made since I entered the work force I would be wealthy beyond belief.
      Same ol’ stuff. We need a 10% flat tax and no entitlements. I am tired of bureaucrats looking down their long nose at me with condescension telling me when they will give me back what they wrongfully took.
      It’s all about control. That’s why I work for myself. No UI.

  • C B

    I don’t really have a problem with feeding and housing families with the understanding that some could be working for a living . Alcohol and Drug abuse are problems that are secondary and will never go away . However , I draw the line at sending American Tax Dollars to other Countries , most of whom are Anti-American without votes from the American People to approve it . All that money we give away would solve many if not all the problems our own Nation is facing ………..

    • Greg Waters

      If the government stayed out of our business and quit taxing us to meet our needs we would have enough money to meet our needs. Am I the only libertarian around here?

      • Pat S.

        The government doesn’t tax us to meet our needs, they tax us to meet their needs.

        • Greg Waters

          Well said…but they work overtime to make everyone think they are here to help.

  • Greg Waters

    I love Trump but he missed it yugely here. He should have said the government was no longer going to collect UI premiums or dispense money to claimants.

  • Greg Waters

    Someday they will be telling us what to eat, and how much to eat.

  • despo

    Can I get an AMEN?? Put down that doobie and get to work!

  • Greg Waters

    If I smoked pot I would insist that my employer quit deducting UI premiums for something they have stated in advance they are going to deny me. Unemployment is insurance and the employee pays the premium. This is the way the nanny state works…take your money and then decide if you are good enough to get it back.
    Every hold a milk bone up for a dog and then make them bark or do tricks for it?
    Create a need
    Tax to pay to cover the need
    Arbitrarily decide who gets their own money back and who doesn’t based on conditional behavior.
    Keep your own money and then decide what to do with it

  • tedlv

    Please do the same for welfare recipients.

  • Michael D Leonardo

    People pay unemployment tax on payroll. This is like testing to receive SS retirement. It is not welfare

    • Greg Waters

      I agree…this is the long arm of the nanny state. Quit charging me premiums. We should have a privatized UI system. You can buy a policy if you want to.

      • Linda Griffin

        If you don’t buy it, then you should have no right to sue an employer for damages.

        • Greg Waters

          The employer doesn’t have anything to do with it. The government bureaucrats forces employers to collect taxes and premiums for them from people who just want a job. This is extortion. If the employer does it wrong or makes and error, the penalties are enormous. I would hire more if I could just do an arms length transaction. Everything is about government mandates

  • ted

    Let’s start going after the crooked employers who profit from hiring people that have no right to work in this country. Sick and tired of this authoritarian crap from the government when they won’t even enforce laws on the books against real criminals like those who knowingly hire illegals.

    • Greg Waters

      I don’t know if you have looked around lately, but the government is full of crooks. Let’s just call them the Deep State.

  • Roy Beane

    Entrepreneurs selling clean urine will make a killing on this. Ha.

  • notwar

    Drug testing for EBT card recipients too.

    • Justin Thyme

      yes, we need to weed out the ones taking advantage of the system.

      • Greg Waters

        That was funny!

      • notwar

        “Weed out”..I like it.

  • One_way

    Yes! We should also require job training for those able to work.

    • Disgusted Caucasian

      The “Job Training” cry has always been a leftist excuse for why people can’t get jobs. It’s just political cover for the leftists because they destroy so many job opportunities for many Americans. We need jobs….not training for jobs that don’t exist. America needs jobs for HS grads…like repetitive factory jobs. When our nation had an abundance of those jobs during the 50’s and 60’s, we were able to fight a war and put a man on the moon at the same time without going into debt. We need to get back to that level of greatness.

    • Pat S.

      Job training? how about legal citizens be given the opportunity. What kind of job training will help when the illegals will just take those jobs. You don’t start fixing the problem half way through.

  • Stan d

    Not gonna stop meth, heroine, cocaine, opiates, LSD, MDMA, amphetamines, barbiturates, codeine, methadone and morphine or even alcohol users. This targets only one thing, Cannabis, supporting the ignorant and racist agenda propagated by Harry J Anslinger.

    • DCBlueBlood

      I used to be GM of a Staffing Agency. The Tests are broad spectrum based. They can test for like 12 substances now, it’s still not worth the expense and hassle to states.

      • Stan d

        All of those drugs I mentioned will clear your system either in a matter of hours or a couple days, Cannabis is fat soluble which is why it stays in your system for up to 4 weeks. I am all for drug testing but only for the ones that are causing problems e.g everything but Cannabis.

  • Daniel Shays

    The Obama administration raised unemployment rates through the roof. It’s an insurance policy, not an entitlement.

  • ted

    In addition, the government should not allow anybody failing a drug test or using alcohol to pay taxes. If it is wrong to give money to somebody that uses drugs or alcohol, it is just as wrong to take their money.

    • Daniel Shays

      They are free to leave the country if they don’t want to participate in a legitimate way.

    • landy fincannon

      Indeed, personal liberty means you have the right to make bad decisions. As long as you harm no one else.

      • MikeyParks

        If they’re telling me, as a taxpayer, that they need my money, I have the right to keep them from wasting it.

        • landy fincannon

          I hear ya.
          It would be nice to find out what happened to the trillions that went unaccounted for at the pentagon, though.

    • FromThe70s

      I disagree. They would still receive all the same basic benefits we all do: roads, hospitals, fire departments, etc. They just wouldn’t qualify for the extras.

  • Gnome Sane?

    If I had to pizz in a cup to earn that money by God they can pizz in a cup too!! Then put ’em to work doing public service to earn those handouts!

    • huntress

      WELL SAID!!!

      • Gnome Sane?

        Thanks huntress. It kinda got me wound up there for a minute. 😉

  • ted

    Don’t let them drink either. Drug testing in a country with legal alcohol is silly.

    • landy fincannon

      Yes, alcohol has ruined a lot of lives and killed too many more.

    • Greg Waters

      Believe me…I am the last one that wants to grow the drug culture. But fair is fair. You can’t gerrymander the rules based on which vice. I watched California turn every smoker here into an outcast. They all moved to Nevada.

  • Richard

    Have had to pass drug test on every job I’ve had, think its right to require this from unemployment recipients too.

    • “The” Bobguy

      Been there with every company I worked for.

    • mark abby

      I wonder how California is going to handle the millions of stoned workers now? I can see productivity going down hill real fast in that state

      But it’s quite obvious politicians prefer a stoned society. When every one is stoned no one will give a F what the politicians do. They’ll just roll another joint.

      • Champenoise

        Wondering the same thing! Living in Cal It scares the hell out of me to think that all the potheads are driving around! I never voted for legalization! It’s a total shame! They only care about the $ and those Liberal votes. We are screwed!

        • mark abby

          My condolences. But I’m guessing that NYS will soon follow suit.

    • Greg Waters

      Embarrassingly enough, I rarely get drug tested even where it is mandatory. Makes me feel like people think I can’t have fun.

    • Greg Waters

      The bigger problem here is not the drug testing, it is the forced participation. I flat out guarantee you I can get a job paying at least what the maximum claim is, I think in California is $520 a week. So I am forced into a system where the only way I will collect is if I want to not be employed for awhile. This is counter intuitive. I work 60 hours per week and at $10/hour sweeping sidewalks or washing dishes I am making more.

  • C. Scott

    Drug test for all government welfare programs!

    • Greg Waters

      Drug test everyone who works or the government also. Including Congress. If e are going to live in a Puritanical society, make every one do it.

    • Nathan Pinnhead

      and Congress, Supreme Court and the President.

      • Champenoise

        The President never had a drink! You sound a little toasted!

  • ConservativeWarrior

    If you have money for drugs you have money for necesities.

  • landy fincannon

    Ponder this for a minute.

    Can you work legally WITHOUT a SS # ?
    Then our SS# is nothing more than a permission slip (license) .
    Ugly truths are hard to accept.

    The government has out grow its usefulness.

    • Stan d

      The federal government was the child of We The People, we told them what to do, nowadays, that child has grown up to become a spoiled rotten brat that is making demands and is trying to tell it’s parents what to do.

      • landy fincannon

        If you’re looking for proof of feudalism. Look no further than our government.

  • DCBlueBlood

    1000 Cups wholesale is $6.55/per cup. ($6,550.00)

    This has been tried in other states like Flori-DUH where it proved out that less than 2% failed the drug test.

    Waste of money and time.

    Great for Drug Cup Manufacturers and those that get to watch people pee in a cup I guess.

    Ah Ha – That’s why Trump Likes Golden Showers! LOL! He’s a Pee Pee Freak!

    • C. Scott

      Typical lib reply. Get lost!

      • DCBlueBlood

        Typical Con Economic Putz Math.

    • Old Enough To Know

      Is there anything like a litmus strip test? A former coworker (Day worker) was tested by the employing Temp Agency in the Safety Office in a matter of 10 minutes. He tested positive for THC and was dismissed on the spot.
      Not arguing with your post nor its finding as I read an article similar to your Florida findings. I do think there are cheaper ways of testing.

    • Alice

      Your facts are not true!

      • DCBlueBlood

        Prove me wrong then … there’s a reason this Pee Pee Policy fails.

        Been there, done it and it’s not worth it. Not Viable – but I’ll wait for you to prove me wrong.

  • Bill Smith 999935

    Great. I had to pass a drug test to earn my paycheck.

    • Nathan Pinnhead

      Lets drug test Trump.

      • huntress

        Troll alert. Ignore.
        Pinnhead, you need to be drug tested

      • Champenoise

        Pinnhead! Must be the size of your brain!

  • Caddolakeguy

    Great. Good start.

  • Living in the Times

    Yes! Should also drug test all welfare recipients. If someone can afford drugs, then they can afford to pay their bills. All about priorities. TOO FUNNY. I posted this comment then scrolled down to read other posts then came back to edit. Apparently, we are of the same mentality on welfare and unemployment. Like minds!

  • Varangian Guard

    OUTSTANDING!

    You don’t need money if you can afford dope.

    • Living in the Times

      I said the same thing! my post is below.

  • davej

    Should require them for ALL Govt employees, and Employees of “We the People” (meaning Senators, Congressmen/women, and their aides

    • Heremeroor

      them too

    • Bob

      Great way to drain the swamp!

    • Holly Lopez

      Great idea!

    • HarryObrian

      But what is the penalty for the unionized government workers? Paid time off with full benefits seems to be the current punishment.

      • mark abby

        True. The union I worked under we would often put people in rehab numerous times so they could keep their jobs. Of course we’d have to give management something in return, often at the expense of those workers who never did drugs.

        Unions operate no different than politicians.

    • Sane_Person37

      We’d lose pelosi, maxie waters and sheila lee for sure.

  • No Mas

    This will be a great start, but like others mention, this should be for all entitlement recipients, except for the few diagnosed with terminal illness with less than 6 months to live… ;p

  • mark abby

    How about welfare? Food stamps? EBT card holders? These people purchase expensive meats and fish with EBT cards then resell them to restaurants for the cash.

    Time to stop this drain on taxpayers

    • Varangian Guard

      Include the testing for the socialized medicine as well. I’m not saying that folks shouldn’t get it if they test dirty, but the subsidy from the taxpayer should be lower if the recipient is engaging in “risky” behavior.

      • ConservativeWarrior

        If they test dirty, they have money to pay for their own medicine, like everyone else does.

        • willnkc

          If they test dirty, it’s their own fault. A $20 kit can beat these tests.

    • ConservativeWarrior

      Any one who receives taxpayer dollars in any form.

      • HarryObrian

        Totally agree, but I wonder who owns the drug testing company?

        • donnieboy64

          charlie sheen?

      • Greg Waters

        The money came from our paycheck. This is behavior control. This is NOT a Conservative value.

        • ConservativeWarrior

          Yes, and our employers portion was PAID in, so cannot be considered Tax Dollars.

          • Joe

            No, the employees pay part and the employers pay part

          • Marty Kirkpatrick

            I am pretty sure that no money comes out of your check to pay for your benefits.

          • Michael

            That’s correct. Employers pay for unemployment insurance, not the employee. However, using the funds for welfare has caused the rates to increase significantly which likely reduced pay raises for good workers.

          • Jenny O

            Using state unemployment funds for welfare?
            I have heard that SS funds have been raided for years to pay for welfare programs, though.
            Of course, governments take money they collect for one purpose to pay for another. That’s the deceit.

          • LIZARDMANSC52

            BUT IT’S A GOVERNMENT PROGRAM, ADMINISTERED BY THE GOVERNMENT. . THAT gives the government CONTROL, and Authority over it. Keep your nose clean, or stay on the porch.

        • Lenny Woodson

          Correct Greg but they’ve been yanking people’s social security checks for behavioral issues forever.

          • Robert E. Lee

            Lenny, I’ve never heard of anyone, loosing social security checks, for behavioral issues,before. Could you give some examples? Just curious.

          • Lenny Woodson

            Unsatisfied warrants – certain qualifying warrants anyway, will get your check stopped (retirement not disability). As will certain parole or probation violations.

          • Robert E. Lee

            Thanks for the info, Lenny.

        • diane in FV

          The employer pays an unemployment tax.

          • Beverly J. Perrigo-Slape

            Employer pays half of unemployment tax and employee pays half from their paycheck.

          • Jenny O

            Oh? What deduction do you see that as? Never the case when I paid UE taxes for employees.

          • Beverly J. Perrigo-Slape

            It’s raised through state and federal unemployment insurance taxes on employers. The federal tax is 6.2 percent on the first $7,000 in annual wages to each employee. State tax rates vary from state to state, as does the amount of each worker’s income that’s subject to the tax — which ranges from $7,000 to $34,000

          • Jenny O

            Are you sure you’re not confusing the 6.2 rate Social Security tax paid by both employer and employee, with the unemployment tax paid by employers, not employees?

          • constitutiononly

            The unemployment tax should be repealed. How stupid is it to pay someone not to work?

          • Jenny O

            I tend to agree, although I have availed myself of unemployment benefits for a couple of months many years ago when I got laid off.
            It’s a tax on employers. Ideally, folks would SAVE money for that proverbial “rainy day”.
            I find the whole topic of government “help” to be controversial. It certainly seems to be a product of th e 20th century.

          • Joe

            Your not paying them not to work. Your temporarily give them their money BACK while they try to find another job.

          • Jenny O

            Are you sure you’re not confusing the 6.2 rate Social Security tax paid by both employer and employee, with the unemployment tax paid by employers, not employees?

          • Beverly J. Perrigo-Slape

            It’s raised through state and federal unemployment insurance taxes on employers. The federal tax is 6.2 percent on the first $7,000 in annual wages to each employee. State tax rates vary from state to state, as does the amount of each worker’s income that’s subject to the tax — which ranges from $7,000 to $34,000

      • Ken Roberts

        NOT SOC SEC

        • KD

          noooo SS is not a benifit from the gov……thats not welfare….every $$ is earned, saved, and interest was earned…..just paying it back to us

          • Ken Roberts

            That’s exactly what I am saying

          • Faith Turton

            There are many on SS disability that shouldn’t be.

          • ConservativeWarrior

            True, hopefully President Trump will address this wrong in the near future.

          • Gosomer

            Faith,
            I agree there are a lot of people getting what they call disability but is actually something called SSI, that shouldn’t be receiving it.
            Now, just to set the record straight.
            SSDI or Social security Disability Insurance benefits are paid in accordance with regular SS benefits like you would collect when you retire at 65 except you get yours early due to a verifiable medical condition. The amount you receive varies according to what you’ve put in via both Federal and State taxes paid over your working lifetime.

            SSI or Supplemental Security Income is a Federal income supplement program funded by general tax revenues (not Social Security taxes). So basically ANYONE who gets a doctor to sign off that they have ADD or ADHD or are Bipolar or some other “disorder”, they are “disabled” and aren’t able to work. So this is FREE money given them at about $750 or so a month depending on the state.
            That on top of EBT, section 8 housing ( 30%of your income towards rent & utilities), Medicaid, free phone…

          • LucMilLin

            There is never any mention of the billions government officials has taken out of Social Security, and never paid back.

          • elevenoclock

            Part of the reason middle income political candidates leave DC as millionaires.

          • Tom Hanlon

            From the government ponzu scheme

          • elevenoclock

            Too bad SS payments weren’t put into the stock market like a 401, then the elderly wouldn’t have to eat dog food and move out of their homes.

            Since SS cannot be inherited the elderly are being robbed.

        • ConservativeWarrior

          Correct Social Security is EARNED BENEFITS and therefore not Tax Dollars.

          • Ken Roberts

            My comment stated to leave soc sec alone !

        • twidgetZack

          I’m with you on this.
          Stay the F away from it, gubmint.

          I’ve almost always had a job since I was 16 –
          I’m 63 now, just opened a machine shop a year ago so I’m not ready to claim my SS.
          But in 4 years, you bet your ass I’m filing.

      • KD

        exactly…..yes test all of them…..otherwise go get your money from some other means……if you get my tax money, then you’ll find some way to make that benefit you getting high on taxpayers dime……sell your welfare cards……use under the table money you go out and work for to buy drugs while using welfare to survive while you get high……

        no freaking way!

        • Joe

          Unemployment isnt tax money. You have a deduction on your paystub every pay. Your employer pays the another part. I get drug tested all the time, it’s a pain. Nice police state mentality you have. Why don’t we drug test all government employees including congress and welfare recipients.

          • KD

            Yes I worked 25 yrs. for state gov. and we were always subject to random drug testing!! They still random test now!
            good enough for us working peons…good enough for the elite unemployed, , welfare people, congress and ALL state and fed. employees! why discriminate?

          • Paul

            ALL government jobs, including military ALWAYS have random drug testing and if positive you are out and face disciplinary charges. I am not sure about congress and senate but they should also be randomly tested. If you receive the great USA tax payers hard earned money then all forms of government workers needs to be drug tested. Even at my last job which was commercial I was subject to random drug test at any time. Any recipient of welfare needs to be tested as well. Even if the state is the one who issues the money you still have those who pay state, county, city, gas, water, and on and on taxes that may be given out. DRUG TEST for all employed. It could affect the life of a co-worker because someone is slow to react because they are under the influence of a drug.

          • Jeff Jeep

            Get rid of random and test everyone on a regular basis

          • constitutiononly

            Then the testing times would be predictable and the drug users could clean out their bodies just long enough to pass a drug test.

          • Clyde Currie

            Land of the Free!

          • All American

            Most Employers these days maintain a drug free workplace giving the employer the ability to perform random drug/ alcohol screening.
            If a person is was employed by such an employer and are currently collecting unemployment they should be bound to random screening!

          • Jenny O

            Am I misunderstanding you correctly?
            The state unemployment TAX is paid by the employer only, not employee. It was called a tax when I had to pay it for each employee every tax quarter.

          • Libhunter

            Government Employees should be the 1st TESTED!

          • Aj Harrison

            As a government employee, you are tested routinely!

          • James Dandy

            Uh..I think you’re referring to FICA and Medicare. The employER pays all the FUTA and SUTA normally.

          • Jeff Jeep

            I think your last sentence is genius, I say lets do it.

          • coolflannelcat

            Unemployment IS tax money in an indirect way. Businesses pay it, which ultimately trickles down to every one of us in one way or another. If it gets too steep, there are layoffs and/or stagnant wage growth. We are all affected.

          • Robert Hall

            Unemployment is a tax on employers (and in some stated the individual).

            Since OANN does not allow links in the forum you can google the following for this article and others.

            Google this:
            Where Do Unemployment Benefit Funds Come From?

            The U.S. Department of Labor’s Unemployment Insurance program is funded through unemployment insurance taxes paid by employers and collected by the state and federal government. The taxes are part of the often-discussed payroll taxes all employers pay. Employers pay federal taxes of 6 percent on the first $7,000 in annual income earned by every employee. Employers who pay on time get a tax break at 5.4 percent.

            The amount collected by each state varies as does the amount of income it is collected on—the first $7,000 to $34,000 an employee earns each year, depending on the state. States create their tax systems based on the costs needed to cover their unemployment claims. Contrary to popular belief, employees are very rarely required to pay into unemployment insurance. There are only three states—Arkansas, New Jersey and Pennsylvania—that ask employees to contribute and only in specific situations.

            Similar to varying car insurance rates, state unemployment insurance rates vary for employers based on their history. The more employee claims an employer has had to pay out, the higher the tax rate. To avoid this, employers are encouraged to engage in strong human resource practices and avoid laying off employees. This offers employers an incentive for avoiding laying off workers and cutting positions.

            The unemployment insurance tax money is placed into three pots: state programs, extended benefits program and the loan fund. The U.S. Department of Labor oversees all of the funds, which are administered through the states. The majority of the money is funneled into the state programs budgets to administer the programs in their area.

            During times of increased need, such as the Great Recession, benefits may be changed on a national level using additional funds. This usually comes in the form of extending the time individuals can receive benefits over the 26 week maximum offered in most states. The loan fund is reserved for bridging gaps for states that run out of unemployment insurance money during times of heightened unemployment. State’s who borrow from this pot of money are responsible for paying it back.

          • Greg Thompson

            which takes away from their bottom line which means there less for the employee Right? So test em

          • Joe

            Thank you very much for your comments. It amazes me how many people will comment when they have no idea what their talking about

          • Bob McClure

            I agree with your last sentence totally.

          • DOCWRIGHT

            I am all for drug testing unemployment and welfare and am all in for drug testing all government employees including Congress. We got tested all the time in the military so let the other government employees step up to the urinal.

          • Joe

            Unemployment ISN’T tax money. It’s your money

          • DOCWRIGHT

            Taken out of my pay check against my will. Sounds like a tax to me.

          • Atikva

            I wouldn’t object to that either!

            Which State do you live in and how long can you receive unemployment there anyway? I never had to resort to unemployment benefits myself, but people I know in NJ who had to were never tested for the limited time during which they received benefits.

          • Joe samo

            No. It is a fee the employer pays. You as an employee pay nothing. However, if the employer didn’t have to pay it you might get higher salary. Maybe not…
            I think you are talking about the SSN tax…

          • Marty Kirkpatrick

            I don’t believe your pay is taxed other than state taxes..I think your employer pays half, and the government pays the other half..I could be wrong, but I believe this is what happens.

        • Jenny O

          You do not pay for someone else’s unemployment.
          Of course, welfare is different matter.

          • KD

            maybe not directly……but you pay for it every time you buy anything! They don’t pay for the UI out of their profits to be nice! It’s figured into the cost of any product sold that has employees…..
            So I’d say yes…..all customers pay for UI……

          • Jenny O

            Customers, yes. They pay for business overhead factored into the pricing of a product.
            Employees are often the highest expense. But the UE tax has already been paid before unemployment benefits can be collected. Rates can go up for an employer based upon former employee collection of benefits.
            I am not saying I am opposed to drug testing to collect UE benefits, since you must be actively seeking work while collecting.
            Uemployment benefits, are, IMHO, a type of entitlement, as it is. But I do prefer clarity regarding the UE tax topic–or most topics, for that matter.

      • Jim Hatfield

        A great deal of the senior pop was hit hard by the housing bubble Many who may have paid a lot more in income tax than you ever will need food stamps now to get by. While my food bill went up $40 a month after 5 years Obama gave me $3 a month to cover it. Thoroughly agree that welfare recipients should be drug tested and sweep the streets.

        • Sturgeon General

          You got 3 bucks ? I been cheated, I got 2, but not to worry because there was NO inflation, right ?

        • Joe

          Your living off the taxpayers not the people on unemployment

      • Joe

        Unemployment is not the first place to start

      • Randolph Oberlin

        I know you don’t mean it that way, but how about SS or military retired pay?

      • willnkc

        And this is what’s wrong with government subsidizing anything. The minute the government starts giving you money, they own you.

      • Penny

        Unemployment is NOT federal or state funded nor does it come from tax payers. Employers pay into it and the government collects it. ” is funded through unemployment insurance taxes paid by employers and collected by the state and federal government”
        I don’t recall ever paying into unemployment, but my mom does as she owns a business.

      • CALMLIKEABOMB

        unemployment isn’t tax payer funded! It’s funded by the individuals while they are
        working, & is taken out per paycheck!

      • Marty Kirkpatrick

        Including every single last one of the government leeches, weekly!

      • Joe

        It’s not tax money. Try to know what your talking about

    • HarryObrian

      They can afford to. I am reminded of the allegedly drunk EBT card holding woman in Mass that ran a paper truck off the road a couple of years back. She was screaming at the State Police, calling them pigs and how she could afford to eat better than them and eat like a queen. She had two or three EBT cards on her with amounts approaching $7000 on them. She was driving the typical ILLEGAL ALIEN new car with repair tags on it. That story was squashed real quick but allegedly the fraud still continues.

      • Nathan Pinnhead

        Provide a link. I think you are a liar.

        • Matt

          Thinking?
          That has to be a first for you
          Congratulations

    • Nathan Pinnhead

      The overwhelming majority of folks on welfare and food stamps are rural and small town whites, many of them are obese. Trump is hurting the white folks.

      • Marksman1218

        Who cares what color these people are? They don’t need to be getting high and collecting money from my labor. Why should anyone pay for a drug user to live, or for someone who is too fat to work? This comment is morbidly stupid. Idiot.

      • mark abby

        I didn’t bring race into this. There’s fraud going on no matter what color some one is. We need jobs…jobs people want to do, or jobs they may not want to do. We need to make hand outs a little more difficult to get, or maybe a “term”limit as to how long one can get government assistance.

        Also, not everyone is going to be a CEO or rocket scientist. Some one has to do actual work and get their hands dirty. I spent 30 years in a dirty factory and started my life picking strawberries when I was 15 for .10 cents a quart. Get my point? There’s a job out there for any one who wants to actually work.

        • Nathan Pinnhead

          Have you spent much time in Rural America? Factories closed, stores shuttered, and little in the way of jobs. It’s much more complicated than just wanting a job.

          • mark abby

            And I understand that. I’m not saying everyone on welfare doesn’t deserve it, but, if they’re spending our tax dollars on drugs, then they should lose that privilege. (It’s not a right)

            I see no problem keeping the system honest and clean.

      • huntress

        Why are you bringing race onto this? Try to keep up cupcake.

      • Pat S.

        You obviously have never been to a truly big city ER where the staff is taking care of the folk’s who are there because the kids need a checkup or mom has a runny nose. No they come in all shapes, sizes, and colors. Mostly black in the inner city.

        • Nathan Pinnhead

          What you’re describing is lack of proper health care. My research proves that southern states that refused to expand Medicaid, was the cause of this. Rural medical clinics closed, and funding for Planned Parenthood was withheld. This served to thin the herd of poor whites living in rural areas.

          • Jenny O

            YOUR research? LOLLOL.

          • Nathan Pinnhead

            I have sources in all areas of this country. They report to me regularly and my research team breaks down the data, we record it on scientific spreadsheets, and make this available to the local, state, and federal governments.

          • Jenny O

            That’s lovely. I am a skeptic about the scope and context of any research and/or the agenda of the researchers and their reported data.

          • Nathan Pinnhead

            I am skeptical of busy-bodies. Take a hike sister.

          • Jenny O

            Thanks! You just proved I was right to be skeptical. Your rudeness and misuse of the term “busy-body” proves your lack of credibility.

          • Nathan Pinnhead

            sez you. Please don’t reply. You have nothing to say that I want to hear.

          • Pat S.

            When you have lazy people who take advantage of the systems that are meant for those who truly need it, no matter which system it is be it UI or the health care system, Black or White, it will unfortunately leads to the implementation of laws to try and protect the law abiding citizen. By the way, where do you get your research? By far more blacks than whites are on the dole, per capita. Are you black? or just don’t like the southern states,
            or whites?

          • Nathan Pinnhead

            All through small towns and rural America are white,obese, disabled, parasites on food stamps and welfare.

          • Pat S.

            Go away, your embarrassing yourself.

          • Pat S.

            You must be a “Blue Gum”

          • Nathan Pinnhead

            you must be a sorry, obese, poor white person.

          • Pat S.

            Sorry to disappoint you, too bad.

          • Nathan Pinnhead

            Sounds like you honey.

          • Pat S.

            Zzzzzzzzz

          • Nathan Pinnhead

            Pat, you calling others lazy is the pot calling the kettle black.

          • Pat S.

            You just can’t get any stranger now can you. Have you had this problem long?

          • Nathan Pinnhead

            My sources are reporting to me that your statements are wrong. Don’t worry about this Pat. None of this concerns you. How long have you been a busy-body?

          • Pat S.

            Tell Elvis I said hi.

    • Doesn’t that come from the state vs. federal government?

      • ConservativeWarrior

        Either way it is Tax Dollars.

        • Yes, buy if it belongs state then it’s up to the state to change, not the federal government.

    • Faith Turton

      I think Trumps thinking is to require drug testing for those collecting unemployment. If they test positive they don’t get a check. Then they’ll need to get a job to support their habit.

      • Sane_Person37

        There should also be a time limit on benefits. There are plenty of jobs out there.

        • Jenny O

          There is a time limit on your UE benefits.

          • Sane_Person37

            You are right, they have come back to normal. Avg 26 weeks.

    • Elizabeth A. Parks

      Drug tests for people on welfare would be a great idea.

    • Steve Ausra

      Have you ever been approached by someone in a grocery store parking lot trying to sell food stamps or offer to buy on their EBT card for half price in cash, makes me sick, taking advantage of OUR tax dollars.

    • NotFromAroundHere

      Totally agree with you Mark!

    • elevenoclock

      Also politicians holding office.

    • ArmyAviator

      ANY and all government “benefits” should be DENIED to drug users, dope dealers and criminal THUGS who use the system, will not work, have no money yet always have money for dope, cigarettes and liquor. They all seem to have money for cruiseship vacays, too! This crap needs to STOP. Peeing in a bottle seems a little thing, if one wants “benefits.”

    • Ann X

      So is Twump going to get rid of corporate welfare?

      That’s what I thought.

      • SWSapphire

        What corporate welfare are you alluding to?

      • mark abby

        At least corporate welfare, as you call it, contributes to the financial health and well being of America, whereas generations of freeloading does nothing but drain from the financial health.

    • Jason Sink

      Who are “these people” that “purchase expensive meats and fish with EBT cards then resell them to restaurants for the cash.”

      Did you see that on YouTube or in real life?

      • mark abby

        Real life. Additionally I have a friend who investigates fraud of food stamps and EBT cards. That practice is well known and if you haven’t at least heard about it I’ll assume you either live a very sheltered life or you’re denying it because you know of some who commit fraud.

        • Jason Sink

          Strangely, I have a friend who investigates fraud of food stamps and EBT cards also. For the Macomb County Sheriff’s Department in Michigan. Small world huh?

          So I have at least heard about it. In addition, I have never had a “sheltered life” because I myself have been on food stamps/EBT. I’ve also known many people on food stamps/EBT & never personally known any one of them that have committed any fraud at all.

          What I’m denying is your broad blanket statement of “These people” & the example you gave as another blanket statement as proof. As if everyone on food stamps/EBT for any amount of time is either a criminal or basically a POS who is swimming in the swamp leaching off the taxpayers for fun or profit. It’s simply not true & I think you know that.

          I am a Republican, I voted for President Trump, I hate when anyone abuses the system because it’s not only illegal but immoral. But to me, it’s equally immoral to step on the backs of the bruised. Even worse is trying to convince anyone that every, single impoverished person on food stamps is not worthy of your humanity, respect or trust.

          Your friend (as well as mine) has obviously told you some stories of people doing what you described but I’ll guarantee it’s few & far between as you probably know as well. My friend has found two main culprits for food stamp fraud, foreigners & college kids. The amount of people committing fraud with food stamps is insanely low.

          See, no matter what you think or have been told by someone, you can’t just walk into DHS & walk out with hundreds in food stamps. It doesn’t work that way. It’s actually very difficult to get any assistance. You must have proof of income, tax statements, lease, utility bills, child’s birth/school records etc. etc. etc. Then they base the amount of food assistance on how much you have left over every month. I personally know two different elderly families who get between $16.00 & $23.00 a month. Cash assistance, almost impossible & there is a time limit for how long you can get it & you must have a very young child.

          In closing, I firmly agree with what “seawulf” said about drug testing. If there was mandatory drug testing (like he/she described) maybe when someone like you sees someone using an EBT card your 1st instinct wouldn’t be that they are the scum of the Earth. Maybe you would think that they probably just fell on hard times & are in need. Many people that receive food stamps are on drugs. It’s the main reason they are on food stamps. If someone is receiving assistance there absolutely should be drug testing. My state was trying to push for community service. That’s just wrong. But drug testing? 100%

        • Jason Sink

          This site DELETED this comment once already. I’m trying again. If they delete it a second time, they are no better than CNN, BuzzFeed or even TMZ. If they delete it a 2nd time, they are everything they “claim” to be against & even worse than what they claim to be against!

          Strangely, I have a friend who investigates fraud of food stamps and EBT cards also. For the Macomb County Sheriff’s Department in Michigan. Small world huh?

          So I have at least heard about it. In addition, I have never had a “sheltered life” because I myself have been on food stamps/EBT. I’ve also known many people on food stamps/EBT & never personally known any one of them that have committed any fraud at all.

          What I’m denying is your broad blanket statement of “These people” & the example you gave as another blanket statement as proof. As if everyone on food stamps/EBT for any amount of time is either a criminal or basically a POS who is swimming in the swamp leaching off the taxpayers for fun or profit. It’s simply not true & I think you know that.

          I am a Republican, I voted for President Trump, I hate when anyone abuses the system because it’s not only illegal but immoral. But to me, it’s equally immoral to step on the backs of the bruised. Even worse is trying to convince anyone that every, single impoverished person on food stamps is not worthy of your humanity, respect or trust.

          Your friend (as well as mine) has obviously told you some stories of people doing what you described but I’ll guarantee it’s few & far between as you probably know as well. My friend has found two main culprits for food stamp fraud, foreigners & college kids. The amount of people committing fraud with food stamps is insanely low.

          See, no matter what you think or have been told by someone, you can’t just walk into DHS & walk out with hundreds in food stamps. It doesn’t work that way. It’s actually very difficult to get any assistance. You must have proof of income, tax statements, lease, utility bills, child’s birth/school records etc. etc. etc. Then they base the amount of food assistance on how much you have left over every month. I personally know two different elderly families who get between $16.00 & $23.00 a month. Cash assistance, almost impossible & there is a time limit for how long you can get it & you must have a very young child.

          In closing, I firmly agree with what “seawulf” said about drug testing. If there was mandatory drug testing (like he/she described) maybe when someone like you sees someone using an EBT card your 1st instinct wouldn’t be that they are the scum of the Earth. Maybe you would think that they probably just fell on hard times & are in need. Many people that receive food stamps are on drugs. It’s the main reason they are on food stamps. If someone is receiving assistance there absolutely should be drug testing. My state was trying to push for community service. That’s just wrong. But drug testing? 100%

    • seawulf

      Several places have tried doing drug testing when applying for entitlements. It was very costly and basically netted no one. The problem with these ideas is that they only want to do testing when a person is applying. If you know you are going to be tested, you clean up your act for a few days or a week and then go in to apply. Additionally, many places were asking the person to bring a urine sample. It was trusting their honesty to say it was theirs from that day. If they want to be serious about this, it has to put all the recipients of government support on the hook for RANDOM testing. If you get called, you have one day to get to the testing place and have to provide a test right then under the same conditions that those of us that hold jobs and have to be tested put up with. Can’t flush the toilet when you are done, pockets entirely emptied before you go into the bathroom, temperature has to be within a specific, fairly tight, band to show it came from you and not from a pouch strapped to your leg. Things like that. Do that to the recipients and any adults that are benefiting from the entitlements, and you will find that much of our hand-outs are going to drugs.

      • Jason Sink

        I replied again to “mark abby” & touched on your point which I personally agree with 100%. But it’s for multiple reasons.

  • kaiju

    Do the same for Welfare, Food Stamps, etc,etc,etc?