Tom Price Says Insurers Opposition to Health Care Bill is ‘Perplexing’

Representative Tom Price, secretary of Health and Human Services.
(REUTERS/Joshua Roberts)

July 17, 2017

OAN Newsroom

The secretary of Health and Human Services slams insurance companies who are against the latest senate GOP health care bill.

Secretary Tom Price says it’s perplexing insurers criticized Senator Ted Cruz’s amendment.

The revision by Cruz allows insurance providers to sell plans that do not follow Obamacare rules as long as they sell at least one plan that meets the current requirements.

Price says insurance companies need to go back to their old ways.

Additionally, Price said more people would be covered under Senate Republican’s health care plan than under Obamacare.

He adds the goal is to have every single American covered and have access to the kind of health coverage they want.

  • “He adds the goal is to have every single American covered”

    So it’s official: The USA is a socialist country.

  • Jo Do

    It is not Perplexing. The new bill increases taxpayer subsidies. It does not reduce FREE Medicaid recipients. Insurance premiums will not drop and continue to go up. Drug prices will continue to increase. Almost all the Obamacare requirements which are responsible for a lot of the insurance increases remain. It does not allow more medical savings accounts. It does nothing to reduce the defensive medicine (aka more tests) nor reduce the malpractice suits or class action suits against drug companies. As far as I am concerned, there is nothing to like. Republicans should just repeal Obamacare and if the Democrats want some Federally subsidized healthcare, they can work with the Republicans to draft a new bill. As a taxpayer, I resent my taxes being used to provide better medical care for the “poor” than I can afford for myself.

  • PatrickJ

    Another option to consider is Healthcare Co-Operatives, or co-ops. The Heritage Foundation has a good article on their site about this. Health Care Co-Operatives: Doing It the Right Way

  • DC Cooper

    Because Tom Price doesn’t have a clue about what he is talking about. The Cruz amendment would cause rates for all other to soar. You think they are going up now? just watch if this “thing” passes.

    • intimeforthedime

      My rates are not going up because I have a grandfathered individual plan for myself and my family that doesn’t have birth control or birth costs or any of the other got to have costs on the new Obama Plans.

      It has what I wanted, low deductibles, everything, and thus, $277 per month. Entire family. Had it since 2006. Oh wait, it went up $15 dollars per month this year, my bad. BCBS

      • DC Cooper

        very nice! that sounds good. How do we get some of that?

        • intimeforthedime

          You cannot unfortunately. It is a grandfathered plan I bought years ago before Obama care.
          My agent even told me 5 years ago to keep it, never change it and do not get rid of it.
          Now the government is wanting to introduce legislation to abolish all grandfathered plans, go figure.
          I wonder who’s side the government is on? Not mine.

          • DC Cooper

            lets be clear, Republicans own the government right now.Trump wants to blame dems for his Healthcare problems but they were never invited to the dance. Republicans are trying to do it all without dems. period.

    • owend2001

      Curious as to the source of your information. Where did you find that the “Cruz Amendment would cause rates for all other to soar?”

      • DC Cooper

        Because thats what the insurance company’s are saying and why they are against the bill in it’s current form. I am sure I could say I read it on any site including Infowars and you would pass it off as FAKE NEWS. I’m curious, why do you question where I heard it?

        • Brucew56

          @DC Cooper Why would insurance companies care if rates go up? They care about one thing only…profits. Get government out if the equation. Once it got involved with student loans what happened? College costs went through the roof. Government is a disaster when it comes to social programs. They are all overspent by hundreds of billions. Repeal Obamas fiasco and let the market work. Take care of the poor and those with preexisting issues as needed. Let people decide the level of healthcare they want and can afford. When insurance companies realize that the government is not going to subsidize them, sanity will again appear.

          • DC Cooper

            repeal and replace died tonight. my condolences.

          • Brucew56

            The next step – just repeal Odeathspiral.

          • DC Cooper

            Ha, thats rich. you don’t have the votes.

          • Brucew56

            Really don’t have to do anything but wait. Insurance companies are leaving exchanges and premiums are growing by 100% a year. How long will it take, smart guy?

          • DC Cooper

            I guess we will see. Whats your plan to replace it with? nothing is not a plan.

          • Brucew56

            Before Osama bin Bama tried to nationalize healthcare, many states, including mine had a program to help the uninsured and those with catastrophic illnesses. He destroyed the patient/doctor system instead of fixing what wasn’t working and ended up destroying reasonable healthcare, the ultimate goal being using single payer health insurance to further his socialistic agenda. Now, let his plan fail and go back to pre-Obamadeathspiral.

          • DC Cooper

            did your state except the medicaid expansion?

          • DC Cooper

            In 31 states, there is no death spiral. you never hear about that

          • Brucew56

            In many states, there is ONE insurance company and rates are exploding. My state is “bailing out” those with huge increase – from the taxpayers. It’s run by liberals, so OF COURSE they expanded Medicaid, so people aren’t getting quality health insurance, they are getting Medicaid. Now, over 1 million people are on Medicaid.

          • DC Cooper

            and before that, they had no insurance at all. You had to get insurance thru an employer, if you were self employed, too bad. People would lose everything because of a appendix or gallbladder problem, or a million other routine problems.

          • Brucew56

            Not at all true. The state had a fund for catastrophic cases where people could not afford insurance. Those who believed health care was a priority COULD ACTUALLY BUY INSURANCE at reasonable cost. Those who didn’t believe it was a priority spent their money on big new pickups, Harleys, cigarettes or boat and then expected the state to cover them when they needed health care.

          • DC Cooper

            thats not how it works. You don’t get to have a job, earn money, and then pass your bills on the state because you chose not to buy insurance. Do you really think that is true?

          • DC Cooper

            I am on medicaid (MassHealth). I have a zero deductible, I pick my own doctors and specialist (neurologist), and I pay $132.00 per month for it. My meds are $84,000 per year but I only pay $3.65 per month copay. How can you get any better than that? Maybe it’s because I live in a state where we addressed the problem before Obamacare started.( Ma.) When I was on private insurance thru my employer, I saw rates rising 20% year over year, deductibles were $3-6 thousand and copays were insane. So it’s not only Obamacare thats getting to expensive.

  • jfbtx

    I’ve never understood why – the Government didn’t do what it normally does for large multi-billion dollar spending, create a “RFP” and let the RFP to several companies. Why didn’t they do that? It would seem to me if you wanted low cost health care then you would use the power of RFP and purchasing power to do that. But then when you are trying to gain complete control over people like the Chinese government has I guess you wouldn’t; you would make sure only a handful of companies would. You would force people to pay for something that is useless in that no can afford the premiums and the co-pays rates. In fact, less people go to the doctor under Obama care/Government Health care than before, why they can’t afford the co-pays. The most corrupt are politicians.

    • PatrickJ

      There is an excellent article about this at GT (government technology magazine).

      Use this heading: Government vs. Private-Sector Procurement: An Unfair Comparison

      “There’s really no getting around the rules in government procurement, and this makes for RFPs the size of War and Peace, which often raise more questions than they answer. As we have seen in recent programs such as the Department of Defense’s helicopter fleet procurement, the cost and complexity of responding to these tomes can reduce competition right from the get-go.” ~ an excerpt from the article

      • jfbtx

        Patrick that fine, but does explain why the Government didn’t use it’s own rules and methods for security healthcare for folks under Obamacare does it.

  • Matt

    Might be because they aren’t writing this bill?
    Like the Obamacrap bill they wrote

    When will the people of this nation finally
    find a group of persons wiling
    to do the work of the people and write laws
    that are well thought out and fair for the People?

    I’m Always amazed at our constitution and bill of rights
    and how well thought it was and how it has stood the test of time

    • intimeforthedime

      Thank God the Bill of Rights was added. Could you imagine how messed up our country would be if not for the Bill of Rights?

  • intimeforthedime

    INSURANCE no matter what form, IS NOT A RIGHT.
    Are you going to die if you do not have money (or a pig) to pay for the operation?
    Yes you are going to die, to bad so sad, get the F out of the way.
    Oh, you don’t want to die? Then go to work, get some money, pay for your operation, and shut up.

    Insurance is a ponzie scheme. We are forced to pay money into a system designed to “not pay” when we need it.

    • DC Cooper

      you are stupid. please stop talking.

      • intimeforthedime

        I’m not talking, I’m typing

  • rgeiken

    Talk about sucking money from the Government, they are also sucking tremendous amounts of money for the people who are forced to buy this insurance since nothing else is available. I think that the current system of Government is kind of a Ponzi scheme for everything that they touch. I wonder how much people that are going on Social Security in 2067 will get. That is 50 years from now! Sometime in the next 50 years, the extent of the Ponzi effect of Social Security will be exposed as the Government is not able to collect enough money to continue paying out to the beneficiaries.

    • No Mas

      wait til these social justice millenials get out of school and want “equal stuff” and waive the school debt. the country is teetering on collapse and nobody pays attention,. Next the govt will take property and be just like CUBA and VEnezuela.

      • rgeiken

        People can’t remember how it was before 2010 when people went out and bought their insurance from the market. Everyone stood on their own and no one was forced to buy something that was unneeded. When Government gets in the way, then things go downhill fast. Unfortunately a lot of people who can’t pay for things want them when they are free. This is the danger of allowing so many immigrants in since they have never had much and the Democrats will promise them a free lunch. It is really expensive to live in this country in the past 20 years or so and seems like many many people can’t pay the freight and still want things, so they vote democratic. We should lower immigration to 0 so we can get things straightened out. I have live a long time and am shocked at how expensive things have become. If people living here really knew the facts, then they would probably be in favor of stopping immigration for a while. We have been here since 1776 and that is 241 years. 241 years from now how do you think that things will be in the USA. That will be 2258. It is almost impossible to think that far in the future, but fortunately since 1776 through ups and downs, we are still a country. Almost nobody can think very far ahead except CPA’s. Those people and financial analyst have to look 20 to 40 years into the future and try to determine the state of things the. We should not do anything to make things worse, so it will be more and more negative in the years ahead. Maybe we will have a financial revolution if we head into a serious depression.

  • No Mas

    Force the healthcare providers to submit their choice of options for Americans, get the government out of it. Let us force healthcare providers to see what they feel is affordable for deadbeat Americans that wont pay for insurance, and what to do about the rest of Americans needs??? I want to hear that, I t would make good comedy I think.

  • No Mas

    Insurance companies prefer the stability of sucking the tax dollars from US govt and spending how they please…
    Get Insurance companies and US govt out of the business of healthcare, let me negotiate my own healthcare!

  • PatrickJ

    What is Single Payer?
    Single-payer national health insurance, also known as “Medicare for all,” is a system in which a single public or quasi-public agency organizes health care financing, but the delivery of care remains largely in private hands. Under a single-payer system, all residents of the U.S. would be covered for all medically necessary services, including doctor, hospital, preventive, long-term care, mental health, reproductive health care, dental, vision, prescription drug and medical supply costs.

    The program would be funded by the savings obtained from replacing today’s inefficient, profit-oriented, multiple insurance payers with a single streamlined, nonprofit, public payer, and by modest new taxes based on ability to pay. Premiums would disappear; 95 percent of all households would save money. Patients would no longer face financial barriers to care such as co-pays and deductibles, and would regain free choice of doctor and hospital. Doctors would regain autonomy over patient care.

    The explanation above is re-printed here from the homepage of PNHP, which is Physicians for a National Healthcare Program. There is also a PDF chart that compares their proposal with the Affordable Care Act.

    • No Mas

      Single Payer is Communist run healthcare – see venezuelistan..
      Get Government and Insurance out of the healthcare and costs will drop like rocks.,… I can negotiate my own healthcare better than any government so called “expert – stooge”

      • Jim Ruddy

        Who is going to pay for your catastrophic situations? You? I don’t think so!! Ins Co play a very needed role in our society like it or not!! Under your system the hospitals and Dr disappear in one fail swoop!

        • No Mas

          My overnight hospital bill would be 300, not 30,000… keep buying the Stalin healthcareplan for yourself but don’t F everybody else.

          • Jim Ruddy

            I have no idea what drug you are on but get off it Right now!! Go talk to your buddy O’stupid!! He is your kind of idiot!! It is hilarious looking at posts from a moron so uninformed as you are!!

        • intimeforthedime

          This is how Health care should be.
          Do you have the money for the Health Care, operation, medicine, whatever?
          Yes, then good for you, buy it if you want.
          No, then you die or suffer the consequences of not having the health care, operation, medicine, whatever. To bad, so sad. If you do not like it then go get more work or a different form of income to pay for it. Learn a new trade, plow a different field, sow different oats, plant a new tree, do SOMETHING that improves YOUR life. Do not take from mine for your WANTS. Because I sowed MY oats, planted MY tree, found MY work to pay for the things I WANTED, not for what YOU WANTED.

          • Jim Ruddy

            Have you read your post and mine? My guess is that you cannot read. You are not capable of paying for your own health care moron!! Give us all a break here. Ins is your only hope!! Free from gov’t interference. I have no idea what you are advocating and my guess is that neither do you!!

          • intimeforthedime

            Yes insurance I can choose and pay for myself. As everyone should. No government and no interference or help to pay.
            Pay for it yourself. That is what I am advocating, and that is NOT single-payer health care. I am for the free market across the country, not in each state.
            Not sure why you are against No Mas if you are against single-payer.
            Unless, you are for single-payer.

          • Jim Ruddy

            I am for free market enterprise.

          • Jim Ruddy

            I am for free market enterprise.

    • Jim Ruddy

      PNHP wants any thing that simplifies a Dr. life. Screw the patient in the process. The Dr’s need some form of checks and balances in relation to patient care. Single payer in not the answer at all. The Gov’t has shown over the years that they are totally incapable of running ANYTHING!!!

      • PatrickJ

        Jim, the only reason I printed the above article was to help people understand the healthcare choices that are available and get them involved in the discussion.

        • intimeforthedime

          Single-payer is a cleaver way to say, Government Controlled Health Care.
          Being that the Government Controlled Health Care will be the only choice you have for ANY health care. Hence the term “Single”.
          Or
          Single = only one, no competitors
          Payer = one that pays for work done, goods received, or a debt incurred

          Do you remember when you lived at home and your Mother or Father would say, “as long as I am paying the bills around here, your going to do what I say.”?
          Well, with Single-Payer health care you can think of the government as your Mother or Father telling you, “as long as I am paying the health bills around here, your going to get the health care I say you get.”

        • Jim Ruddy

          I understand that. Thanks!

    • peanut1000

      The government decides who lives and who dies. Remember Sebilious denying an eleven year old from having a liver transplant, as her life was not cost effective. It took the outrage of the people for that surgery to occur and save her life. The last thing we need is the government deciding if your life is worth it or as Obama said on more than one occasion., “Just give them a little pill,” as the life of your loved one is not worth it to the government. Of course the people that made the rest of us accept this garbage exempt themselves and their staffs from it. I noticed John McCain wasn’t given the little pill. Nope, he got the best of care from the Mayo Clinic that will have nothing to do with Medicaid, a government program.

    • Matt

      ya just like VA medical

    • intimeforthedime

      If single-payer is SOoooooooo goooood, then lets get rid of ALL privately owned businesses and let the government run EVERYTHING.
      Oh wait, isn’t the government for the people, so the people are the government, so in reality the privately owned companies are run by the government already. Just at the lowest possible level of government…right in the voters hands.

      So lets create a “middle man” called “the government” and let them take a cut from everybody’s private business.
      Single-payer health care is junk.

      • PatrickJ

        As I stated earlier, I only posted the explanation for what single payer is, in order to bring more people into the discussion. I am not a supporter of single payer and won’t be, unless it can be proven to work better than what we have now. Several states have tried on their own to make it work, but for one reason or another were unable to do so. Most generally because it was too expensive.

        • intimeforthedime

          Anytime a middle man is introduced into any delivery formula, the cost of such delivery will always be higher. The government is the middle man, so it is impossible for this to work at a lessor cost. Now if the government provided a service while being the middle man then the service may help bring value for their involvement. But as it stands right now, the government provides nothing in return for sliding into the middle of the delivery system and therefore costs the system money rather than save it money.
          If the government would do nothing as the middle man then we would all probably just let it slide and deal with it, but they are trying to “control” the system and be the middle man. This brings attention to themselves and is why the citizens do not like it.

          Kinda like if the Hells Angels extorted 20% of your profit for protection, you would probably just pay it and move on, glad they are not breaking your fingers.
          But when they start taking 20% AND telling you how to live your life, what to eat, taking your daughter out on dates, taking your son out on drug runs…well, then you have problems.

          • PatrickJ

            And yet many countries have healthcare that is single payer or at least a modified single payer and it works for them. We need to study those countries to see what they are doing and how they made it work.

            Let me state once again that I am not a fan of single payer, but as our country’s population continues to increase I believe it is probably inevitable that we wind up with some form of single payer insurance. If that indeed turns out to be the case, I believe it would be wise for us to study all the plans of the countries that have been able to make it work, in order to have a good understanding of both the good and the bad in such plans.

          • Nancy Miller

            In which countries is single-payer working so well? If it is working so well, why do people from other countries come here for medical treatments?

          • intimeforthedime

            It is Not working so well in any country, which is why anyone who says it is also says, “many countries, or those countries, or the countries where it works.” They never have exact details or facts proving their statement.
            Kinda like when my uncle’s brother’s cousin heard from their friend who heard from their father’s doctor that he heard from a convention he can’t remember the name of that they said the single-payer health care was great!” So that’s a solid reference for me, Single-Payer health care is 100% great!
            Single-payer is junk, there is NO WAY to pigeon hole millions of people into one path for health care. My beliefs and feelings and way of life is 100% different than everyone else out there. Just let me go buy what I want for Dang’s sakes. And I will let you go buy what you want.
            Why do I have to pay for your failed health?
            And why do you have to pay for mine?

    • Brucew56

      @PatrickJ You are glossing over the issues that make “Medicare for all” a lie – health care becomes rationed and the government decides what is “medically necessary” and who is eligible – not sick infants, the very ill or the elderly! It’s the death panel scenario. Why do Canadians cross to the US for care when they can’t wait any longer?

  • a voice of concern

    Think about it, THE IRS running a Health INSURANCE scam on the American people and politicians make it sound like a good thing.

    ***********************OBAMACARE
    REPEAL AND REPLACEMENT*******************************

    Modifications to this piece of garbage called omaba-care is NOT acceptable. Get healthcare OUT OF the IRS and the government and stop destroying Medicaid.

    The new bill = If you paid for something out of your paycheck deductions then you are eligible to get
    something. No payments = NO Medicare, no Medicaid no benefits.

    Here it is
    Congress:

    1) repeal it 100% and Repeal all (ALL) other documentation requirements imposed on doctors and clinics and hospitals over the last 3 decades 100%.

    2) remove all state barriers and/or force all ins companies to provide ins in
    all states.

    3) require all ins co. to provide ins to ANYONE who wants it at some maximum
    percentage of their income but everyone has to pay at least one dollar and No
    one gets a welfare check to cover their cost. If you don’t want to buy Ins then
    all you get is the same life saving stuff we all had before if you have to go
    to an emergency room.

    4) NO government web sites are allowed.

    5) NO forced participation by the government, companies or citizens is allowed.

    6) No gov controlled or review paperwork is allowed. repeal all previous laws
    related to documents also. I know several private doctors’ offices that have
    closed because they were tired of the never ending paper work and had 3 people
    filling out forms for every one nurse. We all sign away our ”
    privacy” rights anyway.

    7) NO one can be denied ins and how they make a profit is up to them to figure
    it out without ANY gov subsidies. (they will)

  • PatrickJ

    Greatest deception ever run on the American people was done by Obama. The Affordable Care Act was itself, that deception. It was never affordable to begin with and it was designed to fail from the beginning, which would lead to a single payer system.

  • 808Americans

    One has to wonder; If the government would have just stayed out of this in the first place…