Tax Bill Could Include Repeal of Obamacare Individual Mandate

FILE – In this July 24, 2017, file photo, President Donald Trump speaks about healthcare in the Blue Room of the White House in Washington. (Photo/Joshua Roberts/Reuters)

November 6, 2017
OAN Newsroom

GOP lawmakers may add a provision to repeal a portion of Obamacare through the newly unveiled tax reform bill.

During an interview on Sunday, House Speaker Paul Ryan said Congress could use the legislation to repeal Obamacare’s individual mandate.

Officials say repealing the mandate could save over $400 billion over the next 10 years, because fewer insured people means the government would spend less in subsidies.

Republicans say the money saved could go towards tax reform if the legislation passes.

President Trump is hopeful the House will pass the bill by Thanksgiving as lawmakers debate and vote on changes ahead of Monday’s markup.

  • Fredster

    Stop telling us what it “could, might, or should” include. Tell us what’s in the bill, if there is one.

  • Tango Uniform

    We can only hope that socialism gets a kick in the balls.

  • swifty656

    As near as I can tell, nobody will ever be happy about how the
    self serving GOP and dumb dems write or rewrite the tax situation in this once
    great nation. Let’s take the high road and make EVERYBODY PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE
    OF TAXES by taxing what they use. GO FLAT TAX and the rich will be taxed more
    than the poor because they buy more but then, they do get something for their
    money and the government gets it’s fair share too. The poor buy little and pay
    little. Those on welfare would still have the bull by the horns as they can us
    our money to buy as they wish but, that tax would go back to subsidize the
    government and lighten the load of those who pay for their welfare. Right now
    welfare not only does not pay taxes but somehow hey get a refund. Can some very
    intelligent individual explain that to me???

  • seawulf

    If the individual madate is repealed, the rest of the Obamacare deck of cards falls apart. You won’t have all the young, healthy, people paying for the coverage of people that can’t/won’t.

    • TYvets

      I don’t think that many do so now.

  • Quantum Leap

    Stop funding Obamacare and use that money to fully fund the VA

    • turnipweed

      VA is horrible. It’s run by entrenched, politicized Leftist-activists. Just put the Vets on Medicare. Let their family doctor call a toll free number to determine the percentage of disability. The doc’s billing/records clerk could make that call, just like they do to negotiate with private insurance. All those old spooky VA hospitals should be sold off and the proceeds applied to the debt.

  • Javanne

    If enough GOP senators support this, it will be another aspect of Obama’s awful “legacy” that will bite the dust. IF.

    • tedlv

      Good morning! Thunderstorms and 60 here.

  • turnipweed

    Cancelling the individual mandate would make the tax bill suck less, but it still sucks. Since when does Trump support Communist tax plans?

  • JR

    Now if only doctors and hospitals could tell cash poor and uninsured patients to hit the bricks when they show up at the emergency room. Driving up the cost of my healthcare that I choose to provide for myself and my family. F those poor people. Excuse me, I’m off to go sing in my church choir now.

  • Donald York

    There’s more than one way to skin a Cat.
    Democrats attached the hate crimes bill to the Defense Authorization bill to get it passed, otherwise it would not have passed .

  • Bama Bill

    Bad news! Mr. George Soros just dumped another 18 BILLION into the Liberals coffers! So expect more anti-Trump TV commercials. I quit watching Fox News, too many great people fired over allegations. Now watch One America News online. TV so bad, I have not watched any programs lately that were not over 10 years old. When Mash and Bonanza are best ones on, “HollyWeird” has sunk to the bottom of the cesspool. Might as well just watch old VHS tapes.

    • Jenny O

      Oh, my! You just very aptly expressed my current stance concerning TV news and other programming.

      • Bama Bill

        I’ve found the Salvation Army store has lots of VHS tapes for sale for $1 or less. I switched from DirecTV back to Dish. But they still have too many channels that are just advertising. I found myself watching a program that first aired in 1963 today! Are there any current programs to watch? And to think when all we had was an antenna that got abc, cbs, and nbc we found two on at the same time we wanted to watch! Doesn’t happen now.

  • Tado

    Like ACA Repeal failure, the Tax Bill will fail.
    It’s all hype and braggadocio – to court for our votes.
    The gut DEM GOP does not support President Trump.
    Come 2018, dump, discard, junk, take-down the gut DEM Re/Electionist Republicans !!!
    Gut DEM !!!

    • turnipweed

      It needs to fail. It’s pure Socialism, with working people being taxed at a higher rate to support non working people.

      It’s not going to create a single job. All small business employers will be in the 46% bracket.

  • …remain calm and return fire

    Good idea, but that’s not enough, repeal all of ACA, as you pledged you would…

  • Sherry Klein

    Thank you. Low to middle tax hard working citizens do not need to pay the Government for something they had no choice of in the first place.

  • Section Ate

    CODE FOR: Individuals living recklessly are quasi-ensured healthcare via the **EMERGENCY ROOM!!!**

    • Bama Bill

      Which means those that have insurance pay more to cover the “Freeloaders”. We have too many vagrants running around stealing and dealing drugs. Talking to one he states “I won’t work for that company, for X reason! So go hungry! At least HOBO’s used to be willing to do chores for a meal and maybe sleep in the barn? I hear so many at SS office say “I can’t work cause I drink too much”, or other such reason. Then they get put on “Disability”! The person at SS should NOT be able to decide this!

      • turnipweed

        Poor people get too obese to work, then go on disability because they are obese.

        • Jenny O

          I thought disability payout for obesity was supposed to stop?
          If not, then now I am mad.

      • tedlv

        Fortunately, Urgent Care centers are being built. I’m told that many have Nurse Practicioners (sp?) and Physician’s Assistants, but they’re quite competent.

        • Jenny O

          Interesting that you mention building Urgent Care centers. I recently noticed a number of new ones in my area.

      • Section Ate

        Regardless, @Bama Bill, vagrants using the ER is far, far more costly to the American taxpayer. Period. At the very least, a person enrolled in Obamacare contributes financially to their healthcare costs, whereas a a vagrant does not. For example, @Bama Bill: A bandaid in the ER for anow uninsured person may cost $32.00; however, for an insured person it may cost $0.75!

  • Scott Henke

    Replace “could” with “should”, then pass the bill and replace “should” with “FINALLY”.

  • James Vicotor

    the whole system needs to be revamped. it wont matter what is repealed because the next bust will be education and then health care

    • turnipweed

      A great President would accept only 1 tax plan: A Federal consumption tax. Your work would not be taxed, only things you purchase. Everyone pays the same rate at the register, even “off the books” tax cheats and drug pushers would have to pay.

      People don’t mind paying a reasonable, equal tax. However, the top bracket for this bill is 46%, and no one will pay that. They’ll hire accountants and lawyers to circumvent it. Make it fair, make it equal, and revenues will increase.

  • Carl Neptune

    It could but it won’t. That would be good for Americans, and the RINOs work only for illegals.

  • danny lemon

    I agree with you, but the correct spelling is “wretched”.

    • TruthBTold

      O phor krying oute lowd ! Enuf uf thee spelcheking allredi. Ei gradyouated frum Berkli. Ei kno stuf nowe.

      • Robert Adams

        If you condone the misspelling, what would you do if your bank moved the decimal two or three places to the left? Accuracy is important.

        • Jenny O

          Call the bank. Not ask for math, spelling and grammar advice in comment sections.

          • Robert Adams

            No pride?

          • Jenny O

            Pride?? You’re funny.
            Unsolicited advice from strangers rarely meets with glee. Furthermore, such arrogant correction simply serves to demean another and detract from honest discussion.

        • Debbie

          Not on these type comments

        • turnipweed

          OAN is a bank?

          • Robert Adams

            Never said it was and OAN didn’t misspell. If the writer doesn’t care about spelling errors, how would he feel if the bank misreported his account balance? Perhaps a little concentrated thought would allow you to grasp that comparison. This applies to Jenny’s Debbie’s reply also.

          • turnipweed

            We’re among friends Robert, not doing business.

        • TruthBTold

          So is having a sense of humor.

          • Robert Adams

            No, the misspelling was not a joke.

          • TruthBTold

            To bad you don’t have one. It makes life easier to bare. Try to have a nice day and loosen up.

      • Heremeroor

        Sei kno moor! beesydes, Eiy thot eet wuz spelt Burkee…Maa Baaad

        • TruthBTold

          Mi degree whus ah speashial mial en opher. Bi wun git wun frie. The degree sais Berkli bught Burkee hase bin krosed owt.

          • Heremeroor

            lol

    • Debbie

      Why does one always feel the need to correct someone’s spelling?

    • turnipweed

      This tax bill is a train reck.

  • 808Americans

    Oh it “could?”

    I thought you said “it should.”

    Silly me.

  • LILIBETH

    YESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

  • TYvets

    They deserve the right to try.

  • CDG

    They need to focus on tax reform and leave out any attempt to repeal Obamacare right now. A tax reform bill has a better chance of passing both chambers without any Obamacare legislation. It is unlikely Democrats will support any Trump legislation. However, there is a chance that “left-center” democrats like Senator Manchin or the Blue Dog Congressional Democrats might support tax reform legislation. Every vote will matter. If a Obamacare mandate repeal is added we will see Democrat obstruction in the House and a Filibuster in the Senate and it will not make it to the President’s desk. One thing at a time.

    • TYvets

      Right now we don’t even have a decent bill.

      • LILIBETH

        Yes we do! Many of us like a lot of the provisions of the bill. No bill will be perfect or satisfy everyone.

        • TYvets

          I stand by my post. I do not believe it’s a good bill. Not about satisfying EVERYONE. I don’t represent the views of EVERYONE. I represent my own views.

          • LILIBETH

            I have no idea what your views are but this tax bill will be good for the country.

          • TYvets

            I disagree EXCEPT that it is better than nothing. That is not the same thing as calling it a good bill.

          • LILIBETH

            There is no perfect tax bill.

          • TYvets

            Of course not. There are, however, better ones.

          • Jenny O

            True, but it’s a long haul. Gotta start somewhere, right?

          • LILIBETH

            Haven’t seen one. I would be all for a flat tax or a consumption tax.

          • turnipweed

            A Federal consumption tax would be perfect.

          • LILIBETH

            I agree

          • Janelle

            Unfortunately, the Republican’ts are attempting to sneak in expiration dates for whatever “tax cuts” they actually manage to pass. The feral government creatures want money and always more of it.

          • LILIBETH

            These tax cuts are JUST what we need!

          • Jenny O

            I hear ya. And Lillibeth was expressing hers in response.

          • turnipweed

            Yes, but you can clearly see that this plan simply shifts the tax burden, doesn’t really reduce it. Give yourself credit for recognizing this is NOT a good bill.

          • TYvets

            To a large extent, it does. It does not address spending, it does not force everyone to have skin in the game, it doesn’t do enough for small business and individual practitioners (say, drs.). The mortgage cap, if that gets in, will be devastating for the housing markets in some cities (a young professional couple who wants a first house in some markets could be in difficulty). The list goes on. It’s just not a very good bill.
            I put it in the category of better-than-nothing-but-not-good-enough.

            And… thank you.

        • antiliberal00

          You can not do tax reform until they cut actual government spending, by a lot, Anything else is just a lie and a shell game that we the people lose. Deficit spending has to come to zero along with the debt ceiling. Then and only then should they discuss cutting our taxes.

          • LILIBETH

            Actually a flat tax or a consumption tax would be best. But cutting taxes right now would give people a break that they desperately need right now.

          • turnipweed

            This plan doesn’t really reduce taxes. It merely shifts them around. Small business owners will bear the brunt. They propose a decrease on the business side, and a big increase (to 46%!) on the personal side. That my friend will cost jobs.

          • LILIBETH

            Depends on the “small business”. Differing opinions as you can see….

            Trump hands American small businesses and workers a win

            © Getty Images

            The Trump tax plan that has now been drafted in the House includes the biggest small business tax cut in at least 15 years. We believe the small business employers who hire well over half of American workers are big winners here, and kudos to President Trump and House Republicans for giving them long overdue relief. Anything that benefits small businesses by allowing them to succeed and expand is unquestionably good news for American workers.

            The bill calls for a new 25 percent top marginal small business tax rate, down from the current 39.6 percent rate on successful businesses. This reform will allow millions of American manufacturers, retailers, and other small businesses to keep more of their earnings necessary to compete with their big business and international competitors. It will also help keep them located here in the United States.

            There are caveats to the new 25 percent rate. First, only 30 percent of qualifying earnings can be considered business income and subject to this new rate. The other 70 percent will be considered wage income and will be taxed at the new individual tax rates. By the way, the current 39.6 percent rate on America’s small businesses is one of the highest in the world. Most other nations already provide a lower tax rate for the small entrepreneurial firms.

          • turnipweed

            Disagree. You’re assuming revenues will be reduced. Under Kennedy and Reagan, reducing taxes actually increased revenues.

        • turnipweed

          What’s good about it? It’s Communism 101, tax people unequally.

          • LILIBETH

            But better than we have now.I agree a flat tax or a consumption tax would be best.

          • turnipweed

            Only because it truly does reduce taxes on businesses.

            It still gives REFUNDS to people who pay ZERO taxes. That’s pure Socialism.

    • I would leave it in for now. It can be a bargaining chip in conference & who knows the mandate may pass?

    • KMA

      Absolutely agree, besides there’ll be plenty of savings once ALL immigration programs are ENDED.

      • Michael Hawk

        Your READING MY MIND !!!!

  • mark abby

    Question: will the tax reform bill also include those who get social security?or, are they excluded from any tax relief?

  • The other Donald

    After all it is a tax according to judge Roberts, great idea

  • Tyrone

    Imagine living in a country where adults have the freedom to make choices and lead their own lives without the government dictating to them.

    • Letmesay

      Only one drawback about that dream. Many adults have the mine set of a 10 year old, mostly today’s liberals.

      • Tyrone

        People need to be free to make their own decisions.

      • danny lemon

        I agree with you, but I think you meant “mind” set.

      • Jenny O

        That may be. But do you want to keep coddling liberals?

    • Disgusted Caucasian

      Where would that be?

    • monorprise

      What a dream that would be. A free country, where a man truely is the sum of his own choices not that of his dispotic neghbors foolishness.

      Let us live in a free country one day please!