President Trump Moves to Shrink Two National Monuments in Utah

President Donald Trump speaks on his decision to shrink the size of Bears Ears and Grand Staircase Escalante national monuments, Monday, Dec. 4, 2017, in Salt Lake City. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)

December 4, 2017
OAN Newsroom

President Trump announced plans to roll back Obama-era monument designations in Utah.

During a speech Monday, the president said he is signing two proclamations which will shrink the Bears Ears National Monument and the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument.

Bears Ears, the twin rock formations which form part of Bears Ears National Monument in the Four Corners region, are pictured in Utah, U.S. May 16, 2017. (Photo/REUTERS/Bob Strong)

He called the measures a reversal of federal overreach, and says the move will restore the rights of land to the people of Utah.

The president says the residents of the state know how to protect and conserve their own land, and Washington politicians do not.

He added, lands must be protected and now will be protected by this new measure.

223 Comments on "President Trump Moves to Shrink Two National Monuments in Utah"

  1. Tango Uniform | December 5, 2017 at 9:59 pm |

    Patagonia says Trump stole our land. I say he gave it back to the people of Utah.

  2. Becky Calaway | December 5, 2017 at 1:45 pm |

    Just heard that OAN was independent from either party, only stated the news, didn’t tell you how to think about it. But evidently it stops at the comment section. Anyone who disagrees with the Trump agenda is called names and ridiculed. I knew it was too good to be true. And by the way, an economic study from Utah in 2012 found that taking over land management would cost the state government a substantial sum: $275 million a year. The land belonged to the U.S. before there were states, and then it was parceled off bit by bit to the states. The government is a much cheaper landlord than what the State will be, so ranchers will still be angry for a different set of reasons.

  3. See, this is why right wingers must be kept out of government.

  4. Way to go Mr. President, I agree 100%.

  5. He’s my President!! MAGA

  6. Obama communist ideals nixed one at a time… Removing land from Federal control and turning back to the States is how it should be.

    • You don’t know what a Communist is.

      • Here you go…
        1.
        a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.
        2.
        (often initial capital letter) a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party.

        • Obama was not a Communist President. He favored the banks and the war industry, and he put private insurance profits before patients needs.

          • Obama wanted total control over the populace,., that is what the “ruling totalitarianism” is to communism

          • Really… when did he say he wanted total control over the populace?

            Seems to me that you are terrified of Obama. And confused. Obama’s supposed to be a Muslim right? ROFL!

          • only raised in Pakistan as a muslim… paid our known enemy in Iran, but you ignore facts,,.,

          • Your fantasies are not facts

  7. Anonymous from LI in FL now | December 5, 2017 at 7:24 am |

    OBAMA TOOK THE LAND FROM UTAH AND DEEMED IT FEDERAL PROPERTY LAST DECEMBER 28, 2016, A FEW WEEKS BEFORE TRUMP WAS SWORN INTO OFFICE. TRUMP JUST GAVE IT BACK TO THE STATE OF UTAH. WHAT A BUNCH OF FOOLS THOSE PROTESTERS IN UTAH ARE. THEY PROBABLY DIDN’T EVEN KNOW THAT OBAMA TOOK IT LAST DECEMBER.

    • I bet you heard that on Breitbart, loL!

    • Obama took the land from no one. It was already Federal property – and had been since before Utah’s statehood. Trump is not giving it back to the state. Your fantasy was not in the news because it is not true.

  8. Joshua Campbell | December 5, 2017 at 7:22 am |

    Trump needs to do this with all federal land, give it back to the states!

    • Western states willingly ceded claim to their unapportioned lands as a condition of statehood, thus those entities as “states” never owned the lands..

  9. georgia dawg | December 5, 2017 at 7:07 am |

    huh, wut?

  10. Barry Soreto Obama “The Manchild” is watching his entire agenda during his regime get torn apart and dismantled. Poor Barry must be getting as ticked at Trump as the rest of the Dems who also should be getting tired of losing.

  11. Patrick Kinsey | December 5, 2017 at 5:45 am |

    He can disband the BLM also, they far overreach what they were intended for….

  12. Deplorable Phytomorphogenesis | December 5, 2017 at 5:37 am |

    President Trump is GREAT! MAGA GREAT!

  13. I love this!

  14. a voice of concern | December 5, 2017 at 5:08 am |

    I think the feds should annex the State Obama was born in , KENYA. It would make a great place for a hunting camp and then Obama would actually have family living in the USA.

  15. Trump apparently knows that the least government is the best government. What a refreshing change from the past socialist moron.

  16. Donald York | December 5, 2017 at 4:16 am |

    Land grabbing didn’t work out well for Harry Reid and his Son in Nevada because patriotic Americans stood up and did something about it. Never should American land be up for sale to foreign governments !
    Did i mention that Roy Finicum was murdered by trigger happy federal agents? Well, he was.

  17. Remember: Bill Clinton created the Grand Escalante to block any exploration of the Clean Coal deposits in Utah. Primary formations as a result of the plate tectonics and a volcanic vein that runs through it, the deposits are in constant formation. It is also much cheaper than importing the coal we have been using from China, which will also bring down the costs we pay each month for our electricity and heat.
    Clinton pandered to a group who hated the coal industry, however we are still dependent on it, so why not get the coal from our own lands using the new technology that brings it up with smaller footprints efficiently.
    Coal is not a bad thing, and our nation has these resources in abundance, time to use them.
    This was a land grab to kill an industry, these are Utah’s lands and they should be able to say how to use them

    • Sam Jacinto | December 5, 2017 at 3:24 am |

      There is no such thing as “clean coal”. Robber barons such as Murray would simply go in and blow off mountain tops to create ineradicable scars. There is far more employment potential in renewable energy.

  18. No1Familiar | December 5, 2017 at 2:20 am |

    This is amazing, he also needs to work on AZ, most of the state is owned by the federal government. This constant federal claiming of land has always been a means to take property from the people in order to control the people.

  19. No more federal land grabs! Remember what Harry Reid did trying to get the Bundy ranch?

    • Sam Jacinto | December 5, 2017 at 3:26 am |

      Bundy was refusing to remove his cattle from Federal lands – not his ranch. He is a squatter.

      • No, he had a lease that went back many years- he had a right to use it until someone else wanted it- Harry Reid who I hope that Mormon trash goes to hell as well as Romney- .

  20. For the ignorant among you, or should I say all of you, the monuments’ lands were not private property. They were federal lands before the designation. If anyone has claim, it is the native peoples whom Trump has insulted. Coal is dead, but Trump exalts it like the fool that he is.

  21. Trump has created law with this act. HE is the danger to the rule of law. The Antiquities Act does not give him the authority to revoke a monument designation.

  22. Our president let’s no grass grow under his feet. Love our president.

  23. And the libtoids, with nothing better to do, bemoaned the fate of these lands because, I guess, Utah can’t protect their own territory???

    “Bad Trump for giving Utah it’s stolen lands back.”, Ima Libtoid

    • “Stolen lands”? Who did the Mormons steal it from?

      • Obama took the lands from the people of Utah… Note the “Utah its stolen lands”.

        • Sam Jacinto | December 5, 2017 at 2:57 am |

          Your ignorance is showing. Obama did not take the lands from the people of Utah. They were Federal lands given in perpetuity by the people of Utah upon admission to the Union. Do some fact checking.

  24. We also need to end this “wetland” crap, which allows snatching the lands under filthy DC control.

  25. signing off with this…. congratulations to the Loudoun Valley Vikings for their national track and field win… with the highest marks ever in the competition.

  26. Gee…slightly slanted headline there OAN? How about

    “Trump Moves To Curtail Federal Government Land-Grab”.

    There. Fixed it for you.

  27. Now close the NSA facility

  28. All American | December 4, 2017 at 7:11 pm |

    Big News not “ Fake”
    President Trump just had a major victory over the globalist Left.

    The Supreme Court is ALLOWING the President’s executive order restricting travel from countries compromised by terrorism to go into full effect – handing our sovereignty back to the United States of America.

    This huge victory for the American people is all thanks to YOU — the supporters who ELECTED President Trump and ensured Justice Neil Gorsuch’s appointment to the Supreme Court.
    MAGA MASA BECOMES REALITY
    THANK YOU POTUS & SCOTUS🇺🇸

    • It was a good ruling… and the correct one

    • When did we ever lose our sovereignty, you cretin?

      • All American | December 5, 2017 at 5:38 am |

        We lost our sovereignty when:
        The Obama Error opened American borders to all! Willy nilly (whether one likes it or not.)
        When illegals poured into our country and became harbored by states that chose not to follow the law of the land.
        When illegals not only steal their way over the borders of our country but they flood our land with narcotics and other illegal drugs.
        When American taxpayers pay for illegal babies to be born.
        When American Taxpayers fund foid, medical care and housing for lawbreakers.
        When illegals murder innocents and walk free.
        When taxpayers fund deportation.
        When MS13 members infiltrate our neighborhoods and breed destruction.
        When people given visas can bring their entire familys to America without proper vetting.
        Shall I go on?
        Now FO🇺🇸👍🏻

        • You obviously don’t know the meaning of the word “sovereignty”. You are a xenophobic fear monger.

  29. Our President is simply undoing what the Idiot from Kenya did. No real surprise there, really. Actually, it will take years to undo what the idiot from Kenya who was not born here did to this once great country.

    But this country has survived much in it’s history. My guess is, it will survive the Kenyan Immigrant.

    • ShemSilber2 | December 4, 2017 at 8:02 pm |

      When “what goes around comes around,” Pharaoh Barry and Michael will both be sorry that they ever pulled such stupid stunts as they did, and there may even be one chance in 10 to the 50th power that they will learn to “Straighten up and Fly RIGHT!” That’s between the Master Yahusha (Lord Jesus) our Redeemer and them. The Master offers us forgiveness and everlasting life, but He forces nobody to make the right decision, for His mercy endures forever, amein.

      • Sam Jacinto | December 5, 2017 at 3:28 am |

        Jesus is a character in a fairy tale

        • ShemSilber2 | December 5, 2017 at 5:16 am |

          Tell the Master Yahusha (Lord Jesus) that when you hear the loud, long, crescendoing blast of His shofar as He descends with tens of thousands of His saints on His way to set His throne in Jerusalem, ISRAEL. Believers will be rising in joy to as He calls them up to meet Him to receive their immortality, but all the scoffers will be running for nonexistent cover, leaving a brown and yellow streak behind them, for fear of His wrath, when they could also have been among those rising.

          You still have time to ask Him in the meantime to take the devil’s blinders off so you can see truth instead of fairy tales about His nonexistence. Use it wisely, or lose it, in Yahusha’s Name, amein.

          • I don’t need your fairy dust

          • ShemSilber2 | December 5, 2017 at 4:10 pm |

            Your choice. The Master Yahusha made you with freedom of choice, and you both make the choice and accept the consequences thereof, and you’ll find out it wasn’t “fairy dust,” after all, in the Name of the Master Yahusha, amein.

    • You, sir, are an idiot.

      • No, actually the only idiot here last evening was you, because you come here with your superior “I know everything attitude” and start calling everyone names and insulting their comments.

        OANN is an excellent conservative news source. The comment section here is one of the absolute best out there. Most of the contributors here are informed and sensible people who enjoy sharing their thoughts in a polite discourse with others. And then you come here with your two hundred or so comments and think you can bully your way into the conversation and impress everyone.

        Well, I’m here to tell you it doesn’t work that way. You can rant all you want because I won’t see it anymore. I just blocked you. I hope everyone else does the same.

  30. He should trade it with the Utah State land commissioner for a small piece of state trust land and just call it equal trade. That way the state of Utah retains control of the land and can eyther sell it to benefit their schools or rent it out for the same propose.

  31. Even the dumbest person among us realizes that the election of this President was a turning point in our great history as a nation. I mean really, the Clinton camp thought they had the whole thing in the bag. Locked up, sealed and delivered. Well, life can be cruel sometimes. I believe this is one of those times.

    • As Newt said tonight on Hannity, he never realized just how close we came. Within a hairs breadth of losing the constitutional republic for good. THAT CLOSE! Had Hillary won, ALL of this would not only have been covered up, but gone on full speed.

      The Lord God had his hand in this one!

      • Sam Jacinto | December 5, 2017 at 3:29 am |

        Your god is a merciless god

        • How so? He gave His only begotten Son as a way for mankind to avoid the second death. That’s merciful. In this case, he moved history so one of the most corrupt and evil people in public life didn’t get her hands on the reigns of power. That’s merciful.

          What is your complaint?

    • It was, indeed, a turning point. Towards fascism.

  32. They steal your money, your land, your guns, your rights.

    They force you to buy contraception, abortion, Obamacare.

    Remember when revolutions were fought over taxes over: Stamps, Sugar, and Tea?

    • Well Mith, you print scary stuff, but I find I like it.

    • Stolen from whom? It was Federal land to begin with.

      • Are you saying it was federal land before Utah became a state?

        • Federal land of Mexico…

          • Yep, but after that, first Utah was a US territory. My understanding is that Mexico sold its land to the US as part of the treaty from the war. Do you disagree?

            Utah territory was then settled by the Mormons, but I never heard that retaining much of the territory as US federal land was part of any statehood agreement. The big issue was allowing polygamy.

        • Yes. Utah was a US Territory.

      • Caught ‘ya.

        There in lies the problem. There is no “Federal land.” The People in this country own everything, including the Federal government. For you to admit there is “ownership” by the government is admitting the government has more rights than citizens do.

        You sound like a communist.

        • You sound like an ignoramus.

          • Only a communist would think the government is the sole owner of land.

            Trump thinks differently. He signed back Utah’s stolen land Obama took from them.

            LET FREEDOM RING!

          • Sam Jacinto | December 5, 2017 at 1:01 pm |

            Trump did no such thing. The lands have been federal lands since before Utah statehood, and remain so. He merely opened them up to destructive exploitation by the dying fossil fuels industry. Never believe anything Trump says.

  33. DocHolliday | December 4, 2017 at 5:23 pm |

    Thank you, President Trump, for rolling back big, intrusive government!
    MAGA!

  34. BTW- GO TRUMP! and drain the S.W.A.M.P. – Socialists With Abnormal Mental Psychosis

  35. The right of private property is an absolute right from Black’s 4th Ed…
    Absolute Right
    “By absolute right of individuals is meant those which are so in their primary and strictest sense, such as would belong to their persons merely in a state of nature, and which every man is entitled to enjoy, whether out of society or in it. The rights of personal security, of personal liberty, and private property do not depend upon the Constitution for their existence. They existed before the Constitution was made, or the government was organized. These are what are termed ‘absolute rights’ of individuals, which belong to them independently of all government, and which all governments which derive their power from the consent of the governed were instituted to protect.” People v. Berberrich N.Y., 20 Barb. 224,229; McCartee v. Orphan Asylum Soc. N.Y., Cow, 437, 511, 513; People v. Toynbee N.Y. 2 Parker, Cr.R. 329, 369, 370.

    • This was not private property. You should learn some history.

      • All the property belonged to “We The People” before the government thought it belonged to them. In England the King was sovereign and when we seceded, the people set themselves up as sovereign (see Black’s Law) and the government as “public servants”. In other words, the people told the public servant what they can and can not do. Abraham Lincoln destroyed this (Constitutional) order and made the Federal government king again with the so-called president as “Commander in Chief” literally as a matter of fact and law. Dictatorial power comes in the form of “executive orders” just like “decrees” from Caesar.
        After the first established colony of 1607 in Virginia…
        America was 97% unoccupied land and ONLY 3% occupied by native Indians. We did not steal the land from the native indians because we abided by the Law of Nations, which obligated us to abide by the native American Indians’ laws which were:
        1) It was a law common among Indians that the stronger of two tribes or (people) nations has the right to conquer and subdue the weaker.
        2) It was a law common among Indians that land claims existed by inhabiting the land and by use of the land.
        3) When any land was unoccupied and not used for over one year, then the land was free for anyone to claim and settle.
        The Jamestown settlement decided to start a college up the James River called Henricus College just below Richmond today. Over three hundred men women and children were murdered without provocation by native Indians and the rest is history. The “stronger people conquered the weaker.”

  36. Now if only he can get rid of K Street (monument designations) in Washington DC!

  37. ShemSilber2 | December 4, 2017 at 4:59 pm |

    Every reversal of the destructive decrees of Pharaoh Barry is a step in the right direction. For those who don’t like it, who are suffering from self-inflicted TDS, if they don’t like these little measures that President Trump is able to make, they will have screaming fits that won’t do them a bit of good when the Master Yahusha our Messiah (Lord Jesus Christ) comes in power to set His throne in Jerusalem, ISRAEL, from which time He and His servants, His saints numbering in the tens of thousands with whom He descends from the heavens (verses 14 & 15 of Jude) will be cleaning up all evils off the face of the earth. He will bring the Islamic onslaught to a halt and make them and all His enemies His footstool. There will be no more satanic religion, politics, or education when the cleanup is done, and we will have both eternal peace on earth and everlasting life by which to enjoy it. Maybe even some TDS sufferers will even wake up and get with His program of receiving both His forgiveness and everlasting life. HalleluYAH and amein!

    • I don’t remember seeing you here before, but then I am often absent from the site. Having said that, major kudos are in order for your rather excellent comment. Made my evening.

      • ShemSilber2 | December 4, 2017 at 5:07 pm |

        Thank you kindly, Brother PatrickJ. Praise Yahuwah Almighty for giving us a small taste of His wisdom, in Yahusha’s (Jesus’) Name, amein.

        • And May God bless you as well, my friend. In the end, we are all God’s children. We stray, because we are weak, but we always come back to God’s truth.

        • In the Hebrew Bible hallelujah is actually a two-word phrase, not one word. The first part, hallelu, is the second-person imperative masculine plural form of the Hebrew verb hillel.[1] However, “hallelujah” means more than simply “praise Jah” or “praise Yah”, as the word hallel in Hebrew means a joyous praise in song, to boast in God.

          Hallel could also refer to someone who acts madly or foolishly.[9][10]
          The second part, Yah, is a shortened form of YHWH, the name for the Creator.[5] The name ceased to be pronounced in Second Temple Judaism, by the 3rd century BC due to religious beliefs.[11] The correct pronunciation is not known, however, it is sometimes rendered by Christians as “Yahweh” or “Jehovah”. The Septuagint translates Yah as Kyrios (the LORD), because of the Jewish custom of replacing the sacred name with “Adonai”, meaning “the Lord”.

          Sorry for throwing that into the mix. Boring, I know. I fully understand that some of you are not as religious as the rest of of us, and I certainly respect that. I really do.

          All I hope is this. I hope this rather magical site called One America News can tolerate the mix. The mix meaning, that we all come from different origins, while remaining one people.

          • ShemSilber2 | December 4, 2017 at 6:59 pm |

            Yes, indeed. “Hallelu-Yah” is “you praise Yahwuah,” and “halleli-Yah” is “I praise Yahuwah.” In Psalm 117 it is even “hallelu-ET-Yahuwah,” with the Aleph-Tav added, which is emphasis on the Master Yahusha, who told John to write in a few places in Revelation that He is the Aleph and the Tav (1:8, 11; 21:6; 22:13), for He was speaking to John in Hebrew, not Greek.

            Also in Hebrew the names Yahuwah and Yahudah (Judah) are quite similar. Yahuwah is Yud-Hey-Waw-Hey, and Yahudah adds a Daled, Yud-Hey-Waw-Daled-Hey. The Daled is symbolic of a door, and Yahusha (Jesus) is who opens the door for us to pray to Yahuwah. So our rabbi-apostle extrapolated from the similarity of those two words (and some other things) that the Father’s Name and Yahusha’s also is Yahuwah.

            All who put their trust in and their testimony for the Master Yahusha are saved, because He does the saving, not any church or other organization. I was saved for over 60 years while still in the church, but the Master Yahusha invited me to become a Hebrew Israelite instead, and He has seen to my education that has now far exceeded what I learned in the churches where I was, for which I say Hallel Yahuwah, for all the praise belongs to Him, in Yahusha’s Name, amein.

      • Just to be clear, Jesus Christ is Lord.

        • Lord of the ignorant

          • …and precisely what is it you think I ignore, Sam? Science? I’ve studied cosmology, geology (specifically volcanology and igneous petrology) and have more than a passing familiarity with quantum physics. Religion? Aside from Christianity, Judaism and Islam, I’m acquainted with Theosophy, the school of mysteries, Vedanta, Buddhism, Hinduism. Politics? I wouldn’t be here if I ignored that. Philosophy? I know who Aristotle is. Plutarch. Heraclitus (I tried stepping in the same river twice…but I digress). Yeah, I bumped into Nietzsche and Gurdjieff as well. Literature? Poe. Camus. Steinbeck. Thoreau.

            So exactly why do you think I ignore things? Because I’ve spent a lifetime of searching and determined that God’s living word in the Bible is the one, pure and only truth that brings salvation to all that will believe on Him?

          • Sam Jacinto | December 5, 2017 at 2:58 am |

            The Bible is a collection of fairy tales for the soft minded

  38. This is indeed a beautiful country. Americans were blessed by both God and nature to have such a treasure. I really mean that. But these treasures, while they do indeed belong to all the citizens of this great nation, I believe first and foremost they belong to the states in which they reside. Let those states manage them. I think that is what the President in saying. I most certainly agree with him. Seems to be a pattern developing here.

  39. Harv Dykstra | December 4, 2017 at 4:42 pm |

    Now Nevada needs some severe pruning!!!

  40. I love the guy! Thank you Mr. President!!

  41. Too many morons don’t appreciate all the good Trump is doing for the country.

  42. Clearlysane | December 4, 2017 at 3:56 pm |

    It’s a start. POTUS should review ALL past land grabs and return it to the states.

  43. I cannot say how friggin’ glad that President Trump got elected!! This latest move on his administration’s part is brilliant, if not a correction of a greedy move on obozo’s part.

  44. Federalist policy distributing power of local assets to local people. To MAGA this is the direction we need to take.

  45. And so, another piece of Obama’s awful legacy bites the dust. May it continue to be so.

    • Wish barry hussein would turn to dust.

      • Twinkle Toes | December 5, 2017 at 2:23 am |

        He will in the end, the Bible tells us so!

      • I’d rather see him live a long life, so he can watch his legacy go bye-bye, and know his presidency has failed and accomplished nothing – at least nothing positive, and know that history will record his presidency that way. That would be a far worse punishment for him than an early death.

  46. MAGA~MASA~MAAA !!!! DRAIN THE SWAMP – obamaa who ???

  47. I personally think all “Federal Land” should be given back to the States. Let the people of the states decide how there land should be used! States or individuals pay the Federal Gov. to tell them how to use there land. Thats just wrong!

    • Actually, it should be returned to its rightful owners. (Bet u can’t guess who they are.)

      • DocHolliday | December 4, 2017 at 5:26 pm |

        LOL, riiiiiiiight. And who had it before them, or should I say, which tribe as they warred among themselves.

      • Philip Palmer | December 4, 2017 at 5:27 pm |

        Do you mean Indians or dinosaurs? If you mean the former, you’d be incorrect in your statement. First off, they emigrated here over the bearing strait bridge. Secondly, they had no concept of land ownership. They conquered and killed whomever when they wanted more land and raised warriors to defend it or take more. Why should they get land back they killed for in the first place?

      • The concept of “Rightful Owners” is interesting. Except in those cases where, by Treaty, the USA (and NO Other) made promises there is no-one that can be considered “Rightful Owners”.
        I would point out that as painful as it might be that whatever Treaties with the various tribes of Indians the USA legally entered into (and duly were ratified) should be upheld even unto today.
        Outside of that, there are no recognizable “Rightful Owners”. Most of the land was purchased from other countries claiming ownership either by conquest or fiat. The Indians themselves not only DID NOT claim Ownership but considered the concept to be somewhat crazy. Further, as was the case worldwide at the time and still to some degree today, the Indians took territory and maintained their “rights” to it through Conquest. This being the case, except where previously mentioned (Treaties) the inhabitants were vanquished where by by their own rules and customs they therefore have no claim.
        It might seem unfriendly or lacking in justice today but that’s the way it was in that time period like it or not

    • There are actual Constitutional limits as to how much land the Federal Government is allowed to own … basically its “Ports and Forts” …

      • The feds own 84.9% of Nevada and we have no ports-must be one hell of a fort somewhere!

        • Twinkle Toes | December 5, 2017 at 2:27 am |

          I lived in Reno for 25 years; it was my understanding Reno is a duty free port. But maybe that changed???

        • Section 8 of the US Constitution;
          “To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;” ..
          . interesting is the concept that it requires some sort of approval by the legislature of the state wherein the property resides
          Also interesting is the”Not to exceed 10 miles square”

        • Nowhere does it grant the Federal Government carte blanche to simply “take ownership” of properties … unless you loosely construe it as some sort of “treaty”
          It does however say that ANY Powers not indicated in the Constitution (also extended to the amendments / Bill of Rights) belong to the States.
          (2)

        • georgia dawg | December 5, 2017 at 7:13 am |

          area 51.

      • Complete BS

        • Says the person that obviously cannot read the Constitution….clear as day…the feds cannot own property beyond ports, forts and federal government offices and buildings…National Parks are wholly unconstitutional. The States have the rightful control of ‘public’ lands.

          • Sam Jacinto | December 5, 2017 at 2:53 am |

            Your interpretation of Article I, Sec 8 is fanciful and specious. It does not limit the Federal government to ownership only of such places, but specifies that the governance of such places lies solely with the Federal government. In addition, Utah permanently ceded its public lands to the Federal government upon admission to the Union.

            Perhaps you should read the relevant parts again – and not rely upon a nutcase to interpret it for you.

          • “Utah permanently ceded its public lands to the Federal government upon admission to the Union.”
            Would you mind citing your source? That sounds odd to me. Not saying you’re wrong, just questioning the requirement of Utah to having done so.

          • Utah Enabling Act

          • Ah, interesting. So, are those “unappropriated public lands” at the time of the Enabling Act the same as what President Trump is giving to the state of Utah? Why would Obama need to declare them National lands if they already are?

          • Trump is not giving anything to Utah. Obama and Clinton declared National Monuments, which gives existing Federal lands special protection against those who would despoil them with mining and drilling.

          • Same difference–releasing US public lands for use and governance by the state.

          • The state will not govern the use of the lands. It cannot. It’s not the same.

          • So you’re suggesting that despoiling will occur if not a National Monument but still federally controlled.
            The state can govern the land if it is given to Utah i.e., released from the Enabling Act.

          • Sam Jacinto | December 5, 2017 at 1:06 pm |

            The state will not protect the land, but will allow unfettered access to the dying fossil fuels industry. The feds lease millions of acres at below market prices. This is Trump’s attempt to open these particular lands for exploitation. In addition, he insults native tribes and continues to target anything done by Obama.

          • I am guessing you oppose anything Trump does? You lean strictly left, eh? I liked little of what socialist President Obama did. I am on the fence about National Parks/Monuments until I have a better idea of the impact. Obama’s motives were far from pure, and strictly served his agenda to end fossil fuels. Altruistic, he is not. Everything he did was to advance socialist policies. I deeply oppose socialism/communism.
            Insults native tribes? Sacred lands, are they? Everyone resents something.
            I have enjoyed the wonders of our National Monuments and Parks, and still frequent State Parks.

          • Sam Jacinto | December 5, 2017 at 3:39 pm |

            Trump is a lifelong con man, beneath contempt. He has no morals and no loyalty – except to Trump (and to Putin, curiously). His “leadership” and “vision” are charades. No Fortune 1000000 company would hire him for any position of leadership or trust. No American bank will lend to him. He is the most unprepared, unqualified, arrogant, and incompetent president ever. He uses racism and nationalism to promote Trump. His promises regarding healthcare, social safety net, jobs, and tax cuts are elaborate illusions. He has disregarded custom, morals, decency, rules, and limits for his entire life. He poses an existential threat to our democracy and to world peace. His damage will be long-lasting. Any other candidate or president would have been relegated to obscurity for any number of his almost daily transgressions. Soon enough, the 30% who still support him will recognize him as the hoax that he is. I was familiar with him before the Apprentice (another charade) and listened to his BS when he was on the Stern show. I was appalled that such an amoral man could rise to a position of trust. My trust in the judgement and patriotism of the American people has been shattered.

            In brief, I am not a fan.

            Obama was not a socialist and to characterize him as such is laughable. Exactly what socialist policies was he advancing?

          • The ACA is socialized medicine. That’s Obama’s main boast.
            Any policy that puts government in charge of managing individuals and targetted groups, at the expense of the taxpayer, or imposes taxes that force citizens to purchase goods to support others, and without their consent, is socialist.
            America has moved toward socialism over the last 40 years. Bush ran two laps of that race,passed the baton, and Obama took off with lightening speed.
            Obama caused immense damage to our democracy.
            Obama is much more of a race baiter than Trump, and cried racism to shut up the opposition. He also would agree with me that he adheres to the socialist ideology.
            We’ll see where Trump stands in 3 more years. So far, I have no complaints with regard to how he has performed as the POTUS. His personality was ever thus.
            Anyway, I see no point in further discussion, since we see the world with significantly different perspectives as to what paths lead to sustaining the opportunity to pursue personal happiness and ensure individual freedom.

          • All American | December 5, 2017 at 5:43 am |

            He is a troll. I blocked it⬇️

        • Section 8 of the US Constitution;
          “To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;” … interesting is the; “not to exceed 10 miles square”

          • What’s interesting is that applies to the District set aside for the capital. It does not limit anything but that.

          • Yes, and wasn’t that the reason for that–to set a provision for the US capital, i.e. District of Columbia?

          • That section does not prevent the Federal government from owning land – as was the specious point of a previous poster.

          • Well, true. I viewed that post more as a sentiment rather than literal interpretation. Laws can and are repealed and revised by the will of the people, one hopes.

          • In other posts, that poster has cited that section as evidence that the Federal government’s land ownership is severely limited.

          • Hmmm. Well, unless otherwise legally negotiated as with the Utah Enabling Act, I think the idea is the federal government cannot seize state land on a whim or for uses other than national security. Conservativism advocates limited federal power, preferring that state sovereignty be unbreached.

          • Really? Is that your read on it?
            Perhaps that might be a reasonable reading for the first 30% of the paragraph but then explain the next 70% … you know, the Ports and Forts part …

        • Nowhere does it grant the Federal Government carte blanche to simply “take ownership” of properties … unless you loosely construe it as some sort of “treaty”
          It does however say that ANY Powers not indicated in the Constitution (also extended to the amendments / Bill of Rights) belong to the States.

          • The Constitution is not the only element of law. Read the Utah Enabling Act. The ownership of the land in question was settled before Utah’s admission.

          • Also…”and that until the title thereto shall have been extinguished by the United States,…”
            So the USgov can release Utah from that condition, no?

          • The Congress can – not Trump. Trump is not ceding the land to Utah. He has no authority under the Antiquities Act to reverse National Monument designation. This is more of his pandering to fossil fuels contributors. He has assumed powers that he does not possess.

            It’s still Federal land, but without National Monument protection it can be leased by the Department of the Interior for destructive exploitation.

          • If he has no authority to do do, then why the hoopla from the Navajo nation and companies interested in keeping the lands as National monuments?

          • By not objecting to his illegal actions, they give silent assent. The courts are the check on presidential arrogance.

          • Obama was fond of overstepping his authority, which often went unchecked.

          • You are merely parroting the republiecon fantasy.

          • No, I am not, anymore than you parrot liberal fantasies.
            Too bad you just sunk to party politics rather than analytical discussion. Obama did exceed his authority, as have other presidents.

          • Trump’s excesses will never be checked by the current Republiecon Congress – they have become his lap dogs.He is also packing the courts with unqualified ideologues without a whimper from those obligated to check him.

          • Just as Obama did, and others before him. I disagree that this Republican Congress has become his lap dogs. If you think that, you haven’t paid close attention.

          • Have you ever spent time in courtrooms? Interpretations of law and rulings by different judges is astounding.

          • Well, the courts often overrule what is within the authority of the Executive Branch if government.

          • Yes, I said US gov, not Trump. I think we have two topics going. You cited the Enabling Act as listing the terms of Utah statehood.
            Then there are apparently the National Monument guidelines, which relates to the OANN article.

    • It is and has been State owned, just “managed” by the BLM. The only land the government is allowed to own is where they have to build a building on it.

  48. Phil M. Kelley | December 4, 2017 at 2:53 pm |

    Trump is dead on target again! And in other news, SCOTUS, by a vote of 7-2, has swept aside all the lower-court injunctions interfering with the implementation of the Trump Immigration policy.

  49. I come from ND what a victory for America they were trying the same thing here

  50. Well done President Trump well done.

  51. Norman Provencal | December 4, 2017 at 2:04 pm |

    Thank you from Real Americans! Now just re open the Oceans south of Cape Cod to go fishing in again!! <3 you!

  52. Honest to God, if he can keep up this fixing of AMERICA on every front that Obama destroyed, and America gives him a cooperative Congress in 2018 to finish the job, he may well end up on Rushmore!

  53. Debbie Taylor | December 4, 2017 at 1:34 pm |

    OBAMA’S LEGACY IS —HE BROUGHT OUR COUNTRY TO HER KNEES !!! I WANT NOTHING TO REMIND ME OF THAT POS !!!!

    • I COMPLETELY AGREE SISTER !!!!!!!!

    • Michael J Tomarchio | December 4, 2017 at 5:30 pm |

      And now, the loser football players are proof, of the knee thing, same BS as the POS

    • Worst pres in 100 years! He even is an insult to the racial slur that only blacks can use.

    • Leong Roque | December 5, 2017 at 5:02 am |

      For eight years the enemy was in the White House
      The saddest time of American history when a Muslim America Hater took over the country by the stupidity of brainless spoiled and ignorant liberal voters

  54. WOW! The Trumpster must have a helluva lot of pee in him, if he thinks he can shrink them both.

    • Phil M. Kelley | December 4, 2017 at 2:56 pm |

      Oh, but he CAN shrink them both because Obama did not go through Congress to establish the monument boundaries.

    • Wake up People.
      This is nothing more than a win/win for the BAR Card Attorneys and the share holders of the private corporation named THE STATE OF UTAH. You need to learn what’s happened around you. There are no governments or government entities. When they say Corporate America that is what they mean. Everything they call a government entity is a privately held corporation, The UNITED STATES, the States, the Counties, the Cities, the courts, the police departments, the school districts, the jails, etc, etc, everything. All corporations have things called share holders who are the profiteers not you.For example here are the Dun and Bradstreet numbers for United States Government­ 052714196, US Department of Defense (DOD)­030421397, State of Utah­ 009094301, City of Salt Lake City­ 017096780, on and on there are no governments. A Private Corporation does not qualify to be a government, (read the Law of Nations) private corporations cater to the share holders not the people they claim to represent.
      For starters the UNITED STATES Corporation does not own this land to give to anyone, the land and minerals are owned by the Utah State Nationals.

  55. Harold Swift | December 4, 2017 at 1:15 pm |

    You know something??? Preservation is one thing but the feds are worse than the public for protection of our national treasures. They would sell or give them to the Russians or even the Chinese.

  56. Harold Swift | December 4, 2017 at 1:06 pm |

    The most interesting ting I see in this odd collection of junk in the top part of the picture is the cliff dwelling artifacts that are also displayed here. Anything the dims did had far reaching power grabs for fed control over pubic land.

    Yes, there are great riches in Utah and other areas of federal reserves and the dems wanted to reserve all of those for feds. You are not included, it is only your government, You don’t own it. You are too stupid to use it properly. They will take care of you and it. Nuff said

  57. A win/win for the state of Utah! Now, whats theirs is theirs again and now lets hope they show their appreciation by running that carpet bagging loser Mitt out of their state if he thinks he can come in and run for their senator. Let him run in Massachusetts if he is so keen in running.

    • Harold Swift | December 4, 2017 at 1:12 pm |

      JUST LIKE TRUMP SAID. “Mitt is a loser. Mitt is a quitter.” He is a coward. I said that…swifty.

    • This is nothing more than a win/win for the BAR Card Attorneys and the share holders of the private corporation named THE STATE OF UTAH. You need to learn what’s happened around you. There are no governments or government entities. When they say Corporate America that is what they mean. Everything they call a government entity is a privately held corporation, The UNITED STATES, the States, the Counties, the Cities, the courts, the police departments, the school districts, the jails, etc, etc, everything. All corporations have things called share holders who are the profiteers not you.For example here are the Dun and Bradstreet numbers for United States Government­ 052714196, US Department of Defense (DOD)­030421397, State of Utah­ 009094301, City of Salt Lake City­ 017096780, on and on there are no governments. A Private Corporation does not qualify to be a government, (read the Law of Nations) private corporations cater to the share holders not the people they claim to represent.

      • conquest915 | December 4, 2017 at 2:58 pm |

        LMAO, what? Had to change tour troll avatar? Your paranoia is showing!

        And the BS of a private corporation that is owned by the state of UTAH, which is owned by the citizens of Utah. Duh…OK, if you say so. I humor you! And yeah, Dun and Bradstreet has numbers as they rate the Fed and State government credit based on their financial responsibilities, debt and credit ratings. So what? They also rate all governments around the world.
        So, when I want the opinion of a paranoid fool, I will call you.

      • Jason Lamson | December 4, 2017 at 5:21 pm |

        Another lunatic.

    • Joshua Campbell | December 5, 2017 at 7:21 am |

      Yeah Mitt needs to go back to Mass…He is trying to play the Mormon card on this one.

  58. Reduce the national debt by selling off federal land.

    • Harold Swift | December 4, 2017 at 1:14 pm |

      Preservation is one thing but the feds are worse than the public for protection of our national treasures. They would sell or give them to the Russians or even the Chinese.

    • I think this is the only way the Federal Government can produce income; selling federal land and or it’s resources. Otherwise, the only income the Federal Government has comes from our TAXES.

    • The States should have title to all lands within their borders, like most of the States east of the Mississippi. The States could sell, lease, or rent all or part of that land as they see fit, as implied by their assumed sovereignty.
      Their extra income could used to lessen their dependence on Federal help.
      To reduce the debt and to finance Social Security and Medicare, all that needs doing is for US to stop our role of international policeman and caregiver. “Defense spending could be cut by 2/3 and foreign aid eliminated, and our budget problems are solved. Let those that live there or with a common border to the Middle East sandbox play their silly games without us. Their problems are not our problems.

      • This is nothing more than a win/win for the BAR Card Attorneys and the share holders of the private corporation named THE STATE OF UTAH. You need to learn what’s happened around you. There are no governments or government entities. When they say Corporate America that is what they mean. Everything they call a government entity is a privately held corporation, The UNITED STATES, the States, the Counties, the Cities, the courts, the police departments, the school districts, the jails, etc, etc, everything. All corporations have things called share holders who are the profiteers not you.For example here are the Dun and Bradstreet numbers for United States Government­ 052714196, US Department of Defense (DOD)­030421397, State of Utah­ 009094301, City of Salt Lake City­ 017096780, on and on there are no governments. A Private Corporation does not qualify to be a government, (read the Law of Nations) private corporations cater to the share holders not the people they claim to represent.

        • conquest915 | December 4, 2017 at 3:00 pm |

          You are repeating yourself, You do know that is a sign of a mental illness. I would suggest you get help so you don’t continue to make a fool of yourself.

          • It’s a sign of mental illness to have no idea what the world is your living in, and as was said many times “Total Laziness”.

    • Give it back to the State the took it from?

  59. The other Donald | December 4, 2017 at 12:52 pm |

    The criminal Muslim obama is losing the lands he claimed during his caliphate

  60. Let the states decide what to do with their own land. What a great idea.

  61. GOOD MOVE DONALD – Why the hell should DC or the past MORONS (Slick and Obum) tell Utah what to do with their land?
    It’s called the State of Utah, NOT THE IGNORANT STATE OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
    The Gov for TOO LONG has been SNATCHING land for them to CONTROL.

    • deadandwicked | December 4, 2017 at 12:24 pm |

      Well Said !! I agree 100%

    • whoselineisitanyway | December 4, 2017 at 12:54 pm |

      Part of the NWO fiasco promoted wholeheartedly by “Progressives” C.ID. communists in disguise.
      Elites and their minions also guilty of sedition.

    • I agree. Let Utah govern and manage their ow land.

    • because there is money to be made and power to be grabbed.
      oh, and the UN’s Agenda 21 to build.

    • And when the federal government controls the land, the people can’t. Socialist/communist/liberal/progressive/power-hungry types like Obama literally bristle at the thought of private ownership or stewardship.

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