Dems May Block Debt Ceiling, Battle Heating Up

October 11, 2017
OAN Newsroom

Congressional Democrats are reportedly looking to block incoming debt ceiling legislation if “Dreamers” are *not granted amnesty.

The move comes as party leaders Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi continue to refuse any funding for a border wall in exchange for Dreamer protections.

White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders says the administration will soon begin high-level meetings on whether to tie amnesty for the 800,000 Dreamers to the legislation this week.

Meanwhile, if lawmakers fail to raise the U.S. debt ceiling by December it could create major economic instability, and risk a default on government debt.

One America’s Thomas Chesy has more on the possible consequences.

  • Bobby Green

    All the Senators that vote this down we should send all the illegal immigrants to their States.

  • Bob Romanelli

    Obstructionist liberals hate Trump so much they don’t care how their immature behavior affects all of America and all Americans. Instead, they let their hate, rage, and bitterness trump what’s good for the USA. How evil can you get?

  • ken

    that’s what dumbocrats do just like odummy lets just over look the fact these so called dreamers have had years and years to get legal but didn’t there no better then then ones that just came across the border today

  • CCTexas

    Social Security IS NOT AN ENTITLEMENT! We pay for Social Security. Get your head out of that dark space it is in. Once again Mr. Brain Dead, Social Security IS NOT AN ENTITLEMENT!

  • Bob Romanelli

    Block Dems in every way possible, in their personal life, in their political career, in their family’s future, in their worst nightmares. Give them a Halloween filled with ghosts of the past that are so devastating, they will never survive the solid block of their own medicine.

  • amongoose

    Go ahead, shut the government down because you can’t have amnesty with no strings attached.
    That’s the ticket for a 2018 landslide,
    one that will land on and bury you.
    .’
    Please do it.

  • Mac

    Dreamers and Dems. Wasting more money than anyone has a right to.

  • Jesus Trumps All

    Answer one question for me you moronic Democrats. Why should illegals get better treatment than actual U.S. citizens?? Why? Why? You want to reward people who are here illegally and punish US Citizens. It makes no sense at all. U have something to gain u idiot Demos!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jesus Trumps All

    I’m sick of this pity party for DACA! These are people in their 20s and 30s who have been here illegally since birth. Why in all that time did they not seek legal citizenship?!?! They know why and so do u and I. And now we are supposed to feel sorry for them?? HELL NO, THEY MUST GO!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jesus Trumps All

    Deport them all; no DACA!! Illegal immigrants are bleeding our funds dry. It is time to stand up and put Americans 1st.
    Ask yourself why the Democrats are pushing so hard to get Amnesty for millions of illegals?! One reason only – votes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Chris

    What’s really nice about the Senate elections coming up in 2018 is 20+ seats are held by democrats and only about 5 or 6 are held by republicans so there is a chance to see a huge shift of power in the Senate this election cycle.

  • Treeherder

    Democrats are total hypocrites. LOL.

    Democrats are more worried about taking care of illegal immigrants, then creating jobs for working class Americans, and protecting working class Americans.

  • KD

    yeah that will win them plenty seats in 2018…..LOL

  • RMCS Ret.

    The dems are going so far left, they are left of the voting block they are protecting. i.e. they are committing political suicide like Woodrow Wilson did with his racial policies/attitude. The blacks were almost all Republican until Wilson came along and flipped them to the democrats.

  • A marcus Young

    If we are to pull ourselves out of this massive 20 trillion dollar debt we are going to have to enable our President to do his job. We must prevent fraudulent elections and must give President Trump the support he needs. Beware of Democrats wearing Republican clothes.

  • Butthep

    Take their names out of payroll.

  • Andrew Moore8

    Trump should respond by saying that is fine….if the demoncrap libtards block the bill then he is going to repeal welfare, EBT, section 8 housing, and obummer phones.

  • Andrew Moore8

    Libtard snowflakes….Holding America hostage to benefit their illegal law breakers…..Who would have thunk it?

    • Jim

      Yet, they are oblivious.

  • Dell Wilber

    Figures…; welcome to American Grandstand…

  • Chris

    All of congress should stop getting their pay till there is no national debt and the government learns to live within it’s means just like the rest of us. So if they don’t raise the debt ceiling and the government shuts down shouldn’t that mean we don’t have to pay them taxes since they aren’t working…. Well I can dream can’t I.

  • brandehhh

    Didn’t Trump say he’d take care of the Dreamers if he gets his wall?

  • DrSheilahere

    Schumer, et. al., what do you not get? Trump is not going to fail his fellow Americans. You are obsolete, anti-US,Welfare State progressives.

  • anotherday

    I’d rather not raise the debt ceiling anymore.
    Cut spending on the things Democrats like to spend money on until we contain our spending.

    • Andrew Moore8

      You mean like the illegal criminals they seek to protect by holding a debt ceiling bill hostage???

  • grandmother5

    If the democrats are so concerned about the dreamers which are illegals, I say the democrats should invite them into their homes, behind the gated walls, with armed security guard. They should feed them, clothe them, well just support them. I wonder if Pelosi, Water or Schumer would invite them in their homes? I doubt it.

    • Andrew Moore8

      They already do, but they pay them low wages and require them to cook, clean, and mow the grounds yard, water, and wash the cars….basically a slave for them.

      • grandmother5

        Funny you mentioned slave. The democrats are so against slavery, but yet they hold most people under their thumbnail. Another funny those people don’t even realize they are slaves.

  • rgeiken

    I guess that most of us can see the fallacy of spending more money that we make. We have to constantly readjust our spending if our income changes. Why they can’s use this same method to get a balanced budget is beyond my comprehension. Every incoming Congress person should have had a class in economics 101 and probably any other class offered to be able to understand the concept. I would imagine that will all the graft that they get, the Democratic politicians have their own personal lives under fiscal control, but unfortunately can’t seem to bring that to the Congressional arena.

  • jlsharks1

    Are Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi really Americans (actually the Democrat party). They are illegals not dreamers.

  • Tom Tighe

    Blackmail and ransom payments are part of the new democratic platform or just more pay to play politics. So confusing who can figure it out.

  • conquest915

    Block Away, Dems
    You have lost how many seats and the presidency, house and senate in the last 8 years? Go ahead and drive that final nail in your coffin and be the obstructionist party.
    The American voter has told you NO and also what we want. We want a wall and border security 1st, and then we can talk about this Dreamers/Schemers BS!

    • Localdude

      …yes, but they have to go to their cocktail parties in new York, la – and the bay area – and mingle with all of the people who have been protecting Harvey Wienstein…so..they don’t really care want we asked for. their freekin’ skin is glowing presently. just ghouls.

      • Michael Hawk

        No they Are far Worse…Just Wait To The Hit List and Pedophile List Surfaces ..And Where Hollywood Comes In and The Clinton Connection to Pedophilia and Human Trafficking in Cambodia (The most “recent” Clinton Suicide was A State Department Employee working there to stop/prevent This Problem in 2015 ) …Haiti also involved with pedophiles /corruption Tied With The Clinton Foundation …If Interested I can give you over 5 names and Even more events and How All the same names come up coincidentally …Incidentally if I AM correct Only a few things this group are involved in Pedophilia ,human trafficking Slave trade (Its Global),Satanism, Rituals ,Rape ,Torture, S&M perhaps Worse …. On Top Of being Career Criminals.

  • Bobby Green

    What’s new here? Dems have been blocking everything. Even McConnell now is sleeping with them. I guess that bed has to be pretty big to get Schumer, Pelosi, McConnell, and Ryan in it. McCain is still trying to find the room that the bed is in because he sure wants to be the 5th wheel.

    • Andrew Moore8

      mcstain wants to be the pivot man…..

  • Call their bluff, I demand it! ONLY pay the military if they shut it down, DON’T pay congress, etc!

    • Bobby Green

      Don’t pay Congress? They made sure they get paid first because they feel they’re soooo important.

      • Localdude

        …and they kept their ‘caddilac’ health care plan, that we pay for…

  • Don G

    PLEASE block the debt ceiling. The debt to creditors would still be paid (per constitution). Then we can reduce size of government and number of handouts to all the takers. I see no problem here. I have always wanted a balanced budget amendment, this might get us there.

    • Bobby Green

      The only way to reduce spending in Washington is to start firing people. 450 reps, each with their entourage of people, 100 Senators, with their entourage of people, is overkill. They have departments to have departments and many of those departments overlap jobs and more departments.

  • Worried

    McConnell should change the rules so only 51 votes needed, before its to late

  • 84Cheetah

    Great time to cut spending. Cut spending on Congressional staff. Cut spending on Congressional benefits. Get rid of a few un-Constitutional departments and agencies like Education, HHS, Administration for Community Living, African Development Foundation, AHRQ, USAID, AMS, NEA, National Endowment for the Humanities, Government Grants, and the list goes on….

  • henry

    the obstructionists……funny they would block debt increase when they are the ones who spent all the money

  • Shane Norkus

    any ‘dreamer’ legislation should be tied to the same background checks American citizens have to go through to purchase any weapon or to get a conceal-carry permit. any questions?

  • Bud

    Social Security has its own funding stream and should not be affected by the Democrats’ obstructionism.

  • Cheryl Timmons

    If we are so broke how are we supposed to pay the 135 billion that immigrants cost?

  • j jones

    Democrats do t believe anything Trump saye he lies like a rug resisr at every turn ,dont give in to this loudmouth jackass

    • Bud

      You are not qualified to complain about any Republican allegedly lying, comrade jones.

      • Localdude

        jjones is what happens when you empty the insane asylums – and create the ‘homeless’ problem…

  • callmegee

    I would love to see how Americans would react to democrants shutting down the USA government for the benefit of illegals. Go ahead and put that last nail in your coffin dims.

    • grandmother5

      Surely the democrats aren’t that stupid. Are they? Yes, I believe they are.

      • ken

        there not stupid enough to be called stupid oh wait yes they are

  • michaelparsons

    I suggest the Congressmen and Senators get a second job flipping burgers to pay for it.

  • John

    They threaten this every single time.

  • Theo Stall

    TIME FOR MCCONNEL TO SACK UP AND GO NUCLEAR!!
    DUMP FILIBUSTER!!!

    • Skippity

      agree, but I don’t think he has a sack.

  • jenshadus

    Now illegal aliens are going to set our policies? What’s with that? The Demoncrats are traitors. These so called dreamers should have dreamed about getting their citizenships. If they were too lazy to do this for the past 7 years, then they don’t deserve to stay.

    • grandmother5

      Exactly!

    • Localdude

      They already have in California (and other sanctuary areas), I’m glad its becoming obvious now…

    • ken

      well its the dunbocrats voter base that they care more about then the American people vote all of these sorry people out

      • jenshadus

        We’re the golden goose ready for slaughter

  • Rosicrucian32

    The real dreamers are the progressives. Chuckie and Nancy are two of the most irritating legislators in Congress. One is a Ding Bat, the other is just a bung hole.

    • Michael Hawk

      I Don’t Know WHY But I Think Chuck Schumer is a Pedophile…I Hope If I Am Right he has a Clinton “Suicide”. Pelosi is Either a Drunk/Drug Addict Or Brain damaged Perhaps all 3….Do we Also Know Chuck Is Friends with George Soros Son Also?.

  • Rupert

    Substitute the word ‘criminals’ in place of ‘dreamers’ and you have what the Democrats and their big corporate donors really want. This DACA BS is nothing but a ‘get out of jail free pass’ in exchange for the slavish servitude and votes the Democrats hope to get from these illegal, foreign ‘criminals’ in exchange for helping the illegal America haters break the law and steal citizenship rights from under the noses of those who follow the law to become citizens.

    As far as the ‘debt ceiling’ goes, as long as the government can print all the money it wants with nothing of value to back it up they will keep on printing and spending until they run out of ink and paper or we run them off. Debt ceiling indeed! What a joke.

  • Melissa McShane

    GOP establishment will help them.

  • Al Dos Santos

    How can they say Social Security is an entitlement, I have been paying it for 55 years.

    • Bud

      And you are entitled to the promised benefits in your doddering years. How is that NOT an entitlement?

      • 53 trillion since 1964 ALL went to blacks, social “programs”. As Roy said, “Time to die…”

      • grandmother5

        What is welfare? They have made a career out of welfare. Welfare, food stamps, section 8 housing, but yet a lot of them can afford weaves, fake nails. I will bet that a welfare person collects it a lot longer that a retired worker collects SS. Tell me again about “entitlement”?

      • Michael Hawk

        Wrong Bud Its A Plan Legal Americans PAID into And In EXCHANGE would receive Payment in Return upon Retiring ..I call it a Savings Plan…A MANDATORY saving Plan…I Expect MY Benefits That I paid For …If NOT I Demand the hundred and fifty plus thousand(With Interest) I Paid INTO over 35 years Returned…I Prefer Direct deposit πŸ™‚

        • Michael Hawk

          Opps I Meant 150K plus The Intrest EARNED on my 150K over 30 years from my Money OUR own Government MADE MONEY On πŸ™‚

  • willnkc

    Let’s shut down most of the federal government, they are worthless anyway. America would be better off if we just let the evil federal govt just collapse.

  • Matt

    good Let the Democrats
    shut down the Country
    and keep it shut
    til they bend
    only thing this will do is SAVE us money

    • grandmother5

      Don’t let the democrats collect a paycheck while the government is shut down.

  • tedlv

    Partisan politics over America. Crazy.

    • Roy Beane

      The government is supposed to be a servant of the people, not their master as the Dimms want it to be.

  • IceColdLogic

    When 44 was in office, the GOP was arguing against raising the debt ceiling and the DNC was pushing for it. Now it’s the exact opposite. That tells you everything you need to know about these people.

    • willnkc

      Don’t let them fool ya, liberals and RINOs all want to raise the ceiling. I say lower it, and cut the hell out of government.

      • j jones

        Yes sir cut social security, health care for all American, medicare for the poor and disables so the stupid wall to be built, cut taxes so the top 1% of Americans can pay less so the middle class pays more

        • Bud

          You’re a hoot. Social Security has its own money as is not affected by the battle of the budget.
          Cut health care for all “American” [sic]? My medical care is through Medicare, which also has its own money.
          Really, are there no night classes in your area for people such as yourself who cannot seem to manage to write a coherent thought?
          P.S. The top 1% receives about 20% of the income (more or less) yet pay close to 40% of the income taxes. What percentage would be required to sate your avarice and greed for Other People’s Money?

          • One Ring or Two

            Sorry Bud…. For you, me and the rest of the saps that have been paying into SS for all these years, the money goes into the “general fund” and has never been set aside as originally promised. There is nothing in the SS accounts except IOU’s from the government.

            As for Willnkc, it is impossible to lower the “debt limit” once you owe it. It is really the credit card limit for the U.S. government. Once they run up to the limit (and if it isn’t raised) they (we) still owe. It’s just now the card is maxed out and you can’t borrow against that new higher limit to pay your monthly payment. Just let that one settle in for a minute and then ask yourself… Why should we want them to increase the limit? Learn to live within the income we generate via taxes and fees. Another question… If the government backs the money. Why does it have to borrow it in the first place? and… Who is it they are borrowing it from?? It doesn’t really, the money never really existed. The central bankers pretend to loan it to the government and then charge interest to it for that “service”. What they are actually doing is spending next years tax receipts and paying interest on it to someone that never had it in the first place. Only possible with fiat currency and fractional banking. When we had asset backed currency, you had to have earned it to be able to spend it, but the value was in the labor of the people of this country rather than the central bankers. That is why Ron Paul and others keep calling to audit the fed! So they have to show the world there is nothing behind the money and no reason to pay them interest at all. Let it crash, only those holding paper will take the hit. Those with debt and hard assets will not be impacted… until they change what your debt is denominated in… that might get interesting but only if they attempt to acctually collect.

          • Localdude

            yep. I just got a letter from J.C. Penny, they have lowered my credit line….lol, just kidding – but hey, proves a point. This stuff is not complicated. We have a great team in DC – if the obstructionist RINO McConnel – will bring in the rest of the presidents team, people who can actually read a balance sheet and don’t need the money (they already had a CEO job etc.) We have to be the CEO of the home finances – the politicians are generally just used car salesman huckstering people into bad car loans (they make more money on the kickback on the loan from the bank – than the car sale)…its gotta stop – we are finally paying attention to politics more than the sunday NFL game (the democrats have managed to ruin as well)

          • One Ring or Two

            Great analogy!

          • ken

            yes it was set aside till dumbocrat L B J signed a bill that let crooked Washington steal all they wanted to from s s

          • Michael Hawk

            I Know Some Of What You Stated …Cant Debate The Rest ,Not My Expertise but a PERSONAL focus I Have Is One thing I See Swept under the RUG …Show Us The Accounting and Proof Audit To Be Performed By (Outside Private firm) What I Do Know that the Day before 911 Rumsfeld said opps missing almost 3 TRILLION…then Poof 9/11/2001 ..OMG everyone seemed to forget about 3 trillion Overnight …Shortly Thereafter The Same man says ..never mind “Accounting” error Nothings Missing all is fine ,nothing to see here . No One even cared or Paid Attention Remember Terrorists attacked America? I Am Sure Its Just me And All “Coincidence”.

  • 808Americans

    I object to the contention the government is functioning at all now.

    If your over budget, your not working correctly.

    At least that is what my CPA tells me.

  • No Mas

    Dems double National Debt all by themselves from 10 Trillion to 20 Trillion and now they want to push back against an American ideal… proof they all need to be deported illegals and communist radical islamist DEMs

  • Jean-Marc Cowles O’Connor

    Please do not perpetuate the falsehood that failing to raise the debt ceiling would result in the USA defaulting on any debt whatsoever. The Constitution does not allow the government to do that. All that would happen is that the nation would be precluded from taking on additional debt. That is a GOOD thing.

    • tedlv

      Problem is, they are going to punish retired people who paid into the system for most of their lives.

      • j jones

        Vote out these morons

        • Mac

          You shitwad Dems voted Maxine Waters…….

          • Michael Hawk

            I Doubt it Probably Rigged/Fixed Elections….A Brick has a Higher IQ then Waters or Pelosi. Not to Mention many others We Loosely call “Public servants “.

          • Mac

            Hurt your moms feelings. Vote Maxine Waters!

          • Mac

            Ps, that’s not for you.

      • amongoose

        They do and we will punish them in 2018.
        More so than we are going to do now.
        They just don’t get it, they keep pizzing the people off.
        My dad used ta say that it takes a lot to get Americans mad, but when you do they will rip your arm off and beat you to death with the bloody end of it.
        .
        Don’t know bout tha rest of ya, but I’m really mad.

    • j jones

      Additional debt like what a wall, that is about right

      • Cheryl Timmons

        A wall makes sense. Immigrants cost us 135 billion a year in education, medical, housing, welfare, etc. the wall would cost $40 billion, so build the wall put out the illegals and it pays for it’s self in the 1st year. Everybody keeps saying they will find a way around the wall, but if you remove the incentives for them to come here why would they? Time to put Americans before illegals, something the Dems don’t understand, they just want the votes.

        • ken

          if the cowards in Washington would just apply the law that its illegal to hire illegals they would deport them selfs and wouldn’t come back no job no money and no place to live and wouldn’t need a wall and tell the drug cartels if you cross the river you will be shot

      • Kim Gibson

        You’d rather pay BILLIONS of dollars to illegals it seems. Screwing Americans out of what they earn, screwing veterans by giving to illegals! SCREW YOU comrade jones, go back to whatever rock it was you crawled out from. Take care of AMERICAN CITIZENS FIRST!

  • No Mas

    One basic question for Americans and our laws… If any elected official pushes against and does not enforce existing laws, does that not disqualify them from service to America and Americans???
    RECALL EVERY DEM AND RINO NOW!!!!

    • j jones

      Include Republicans they controll the budget now

      • AmericaFirst

        Yes, and they are trying to apply a debt cieling. Dems have always spent money whether it’s there or not.

  • dave22q

    Shut down the government to protect illegals. Grate politics but not for the Dems!

  • Bill Jr

    Dems May Block Debt Ceiling, Battle Heating Up. On-The-Fly Balance Budgeting Is In Order. First Cut All Congressional and Senatorial Pay, Benefits and Allowances along With Their Staff. Next Entire Federal Departments, e.g. Department of Education, Energy, The Interior, Next All Overseas Payments and College Tuition. Much More Fat To Be Found. Really Only The Department of Defense Is Mandatory In My Mind, Get Rid of State Dept. While We Are At It (nothing you can’t do by Cell Phones or Email.) Best News About This Is ‘The Democrats Forced This On Us.’

    • KMA

      Agreed! 587 billion is what needs to be saved. Shutdown ALL nonessential agencies.

      • One Ring or Two

        If by shut down you mean permanently eliminate, then YES! Non essential means we don’t need you. That is the way intelligent people balance their budgets. America First to MAGA!

      • One Ring or Two

        If by shut down you mean permanently eliminate, then YES! Non essential means we don’t need you. That is the way intelligent people balance their budgets. America First to MAGA!

  • brandehhh

    Weren’t they just all “happy happy joy joy” and working towards a solution with Trump on all of this?

  • Jerry Stoddard

    Typical democrats, can’t get what they want, throw a hissy fit. Never mind what’s good for the country, just protect the illegals.

    • Roy Beane

      It’s the Dimms’ way of building up a block of friendly voters for their mindless agenda.

      • j jones

        The Democrats may have a ,mindless agenda better than Trumps nothing agenda

        • Bud

          It’s obvious that you do not keep up with actual facts, comrade jones.

          • Bob Romanelli

            Don’t waste your time replying to someone who knows only the Alinsky talking points but not a shred of reality.

          • Michael Hawk

            I Agree πŸ™‚

        • Bob Romanelli

          Trump had 59 totally successes in his first year in legislation, but you don’t know that because you watch only the lying liberal media, like CNN that refuses to tell the truth. You liberals are pathetic.

    • j jones

      Who was it that tried to shut down the government ,suprise a Republican..Cruz

      • Bud

        When, comrade?

        • Kim Gibson

          comrade jones would rather SUBMIT to the dems!

          • Roy Beane

            As can be plainly seen from his comments, the Dimms and the rest of the Trump haters are all together a very disgruntled and unhappy people, who never have any good days anymore, who are still suffering from what has been so far the Mother of All Hangovers of losing the election last November. HA.

          • Localdude

            …mean and unruly drunks at a funeral – who have been left out of the inheritance!

          • Beachguy53

            Is he a Kneeler?

      • Corky Romano

        You mean that fake, completely orchestrated government shutdown in 2012? I work in DC and there is no way in hell that our intrepid, completely incompetent government would have professionally printed and laminated signs available by the thousands within 24 hours… Not to mention the stockpiling of traffic barriers so those, like the signs, woudl be avaialbe by the thousands within 24 hours… That shutdown was planned months in advance.

      • Mac

        your point? Debt ceiling needs cuts. Not more social politics. Get with reality.

        • ken

          sorry but the crooks in Washington have no clue want reality is

          • Mac

            Nothing new there.

      • ken

        yep and now its the dumbocrats turn

    • Kim Gibson

      They are protecting their voting block is what they are doing. They have NO CARE about Americans or Veterans but heaven forbid an illegal doesn’t get $$$. DEPORT THEM ALL – NO AMNESTY.

      • Beachguy53

        Including Demonrats? Okay!

    • Someone needs to be swinging from lamp poles.