Congressional Republicans Clash Over Entitlement Reform

December 27, 2017
OAN Newsroom

Congressional GOP leaders are at odds over how to trim the deficit after passing extensive tax cuts for the American people.

House Speaker Paul Ryan says an entitlement overhaul is a possible solution, saying Medicare is the biggest entitlement that needs reform.

However, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has mentioned he does not want to go in that direction legislatively in 2018 because he’s sure Democrats would not be interested in negotiations.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., discusses the GOP agenda for next year during an interview in his Capitol Hill office with The Associated Press, in Washington, Thursday, Dec. 21, 2017. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

Speaker Ryan says welfare programs are overdue for change, but he may have opposition from within the party.

Republicans believe working across the aisle in the new year will better help their chances in the midterms.

  • Thomas Read

    Medicare is not a welfare program, not to us who worked and earned it.

  • Mark Steiner

    Reforming entitlements that are welfare in nature, yes…reform them. But it better not be the social security that people had docked out of their pay every week. That was a “paid into account” and is certainly NOT welfare if their money was taken by the government out of their paychecks over the years of working before they even got to see their money.

  • James Higginbotham

    i pay a good premium to Medicare slick.
    and my medicare and social security ARE NOT A FKING ENTITLEMENT, I PAID INTO SOCIAL SECURITY FOR OVER 55 YEARS SO STFU PISS ANT.

  • Richard

    Barack
    Obama allowed the terror group Hezbollah to sell $200 million in
    cocaine annually in American cities to facilitate Iran nuclear deal.

    Just google it and read the case that is
    made and then make your own decision.

  • Albert Childress

    Dear Speaker Ryan, You need to really step back and think before you speak!!
    Welfare is an entitlement, Social Security is money I, and millions of other Real Americans worked for our entire life, and PAID INTO Social Security in order to have a little help when we retired, Keep your cotton-pickin’ hands off what belongs to us, ICYMI, It is not yours to do with as you please !!

  • Billy Bop & Drop

    I also agree to eliminate the past presidential retirement and secret service programs. Plus overhaul the pensions of the congressional “leaders” as they are so called to the level of the working people of this country. They certainly don’t work for a living. Take a pay cut, miminum wage and for sure eliminate people like the thief and corrupt Maxine Waters, she shouldn’t even be there. Who ever votes for people like that are really SICK.

  • Billy Bop & Drop

    How about eliminating all the funding for the illegals using welfare, medicare, social services, food stamp programs, and etc. That would certainly help the people that are actually entitled to this money plus defund all of the sanctuary cites and states. This alone would save billions……….. Help the honest citizen of the US first.

  • Pamela D Moore

    Welfare reform. Get people off it and into the working force. The current working class pays the SS benefits for the previous generation. An increased work force will help. Stop giving tax payer dollars to the bloated UN, foreign governments that hate us, and our government system that steels from us to enrich themselves. Being a public servant should be just that, a servant of the public. All congressional and senate and executive positions should be volunteer positions, not a career at milking the tax payer. Stop the refugees and illegals. Most refugees go on the welfare system,, along with their extended family members…. think about it they can’t speak the language and don’t have a skill…. its better to help them in their own countries. Let’s focus on taking care of our own for a while. It maybe a pipe dream, but Trump may be setting a higher standard. I hope so.

    • Rufus Firefly

      The military budget is filled with pork

  • Jack Loeffler

    cut overseas spening

  • LILIBETH

    The federal government subsidizes approximately 72 percent of their premium costs. If members of Congress or staff purchase dental and vision or long-term care insurance, they pay 100 percent of their premiums through pre-tax dollars. In the Capital region only, they may receive free medical outpatient care at military facilities. If they are outside of the Capital region or if they need inpatient care, then MOC must pay 100 percent of the full cost of that military health care.Finally, upon separation from political life, Members of Congress may purchase FEHBP insurance if they are otherwise eligible for retirement and if they have had five years of continuous healthcare coverage under their DC SHOP plans.

    If the Affordable Care Act is repealed, members of Congress have a fallback plan. They would be able to return to the FEHBP. Twenty million other Americans won’t.

  • turtledad51

    Medicare Part D was a mistake, as was SS Disability. Maybe they should look at scaling back the war machine. I’m sure there are some wasted dollars there. The cost of the failed F-35 alone could likely solve the SS and Medicare problem. How many aircraft carriers are enough? What was it Trump recently said? $7 trillion wasted in the middle east? That’s a lot of SS and Medicare payments!

    • Rufus Firefly

      Be careful or you will be reported for violating the party line

  • JumpinJehosephat

    “Republicans believe working across the aisle in the new year will better help their chances in the midterms.”

    Correction: Progressive, big-government, constitution-shredding RINOs believe working across the aisle in the new year will better help their chances in the midterms.

    I believe that many of those whose only real goal is perpetual reelection will be replaced during this primary season, and many more in 2020.

  • Pat S.

    Good God, listen up politicians,

    We want change for our country’s benefit, NOT YOURS!

    That’s what will keep you in office!

  • nfcapitalist

    LBJ and Congress connected the SSI (lock box) to the General Fund which was theft… much like California telling their residents the Lottery would be used for schools and connected those funds to the mother of all fraud and waste while the schools got ZERO increases in their funding.

  • ArbyJay

    What the government (and media) need to do is clarify their understanding of the concept of “entitlement.” I PAID INTO both Social Security and Medicare from the first day I started working until the last day I worked and retired. I financially supported these MANDATED government programs, and so did my various employers over DECADES. There was no choice. Money was TAKEN from me and my employers. The “entitlement” here is that I have a specific amount of money “invested” that I want my RETURN ON. I am TRULY ENTITLED to that.

    Welfare is not entitlement. Food stamps are not entitlement. Medicaid is not entitlement. There is no contribution from anyone but hard working, tax-paying Americans. These are programs for INDIGENT, poor people. They are GIVEAWAY programs, and there is far too much being given away that isn’t worked for by PLENTY of people who could be working. If Congress wants to reform anything, reform welfare, food stamps and Medicaid — as in “REDUCE THEM.”

    • Pat S.

      THANK YOU!

  • john

    Medicare reform is long overdue. I pay the same premiums for my Health insurance as other, non-Medicare covered people, yet when I see a doctor, his claim is sent to medicare for payment, with my insurer being only liable to pay a small extra amount. What is the reasoning here? Shouldn’t Medicare be the insurer in secondary position? if not, why am I paying the same premium as a younger insured person? Makes no sense.

    • Rufus Firefly

      Your Medicare supplemental policy is heavily subsidized by the government. Insurance companies are in the mix only to take their cut.

  • nfcapitalist

    This Morning watching Judy Banderas (?) interviewing Congresswoman Black of Tennessee she begins arguing… then demanding… and it was suddenly conscious of the oddness of “reporters” pushing politicians to do something they are advocating rather than just demanding answers to questions.

  • seawulf

    I have a great way to save money…Force each member of congress to get by with only 2 staffers and an admin. Make the congressional retirement a stipend with benefits for 2 years and then cut it off. These are supposed to be temporary jobs, not lifetime entitlements. Then, if they fail to participate in discussions on topics while in office, their post job bennies drop even further. Maybe when we make our elected officials accountable for their performance, we will lose a lot of the career politicians.

  • Robert Adams

    The biggest entitlement mistake Congress can make is to grant amnesty to the Dreamers. They’re not anchor babies, they are illegals even though they were brought by their parents. Get in line for normal immigration procedure.

  • Harold Swift

    Republicans will clash over their next bribe. Dems just take theirs in stride.

  • PatrickJ

    While I am fully aware that I am pointing out the obvious here, anything the Republicans try to do right now in the way of entitlement cuts will be used against them big time as we head into the 2018 mid-term elections.

    Even though the poor and the working class are no longer the Democratic base, they still use them as if they were. I can already hear the moaning and wailing from Schumer and Pelosi. The rest of them won’t be far behind.

    • nfcapitalist

      Congresswoman Black nailed the point that tax paying Americans are tired of waste, fraud and abuse from rich or poor… this needs penalties that will frighten them who habitually steal these funds outside any need.

  • Glenda Hammer

    Stop welfare benefits for illegals. Obummer was wasting 113 billion dollars a year making sure his open border illegals were better taken care of than legal Americans. All we were good for was paying the bills.
    Obama’s 10 trillion dollar debt he left us with thanks to his waste, should qualify him for absolutely NO retirement benefits, including 2 hundred thousand dollars a year, free medical care and we should stop paying for his, and the Clinton’s Secret Service, they’re not worth it.
    Obama and the sorry Democrats, used and are still trying to use taxpayers as their cash cows.

    • PatrickJ

      Glenda, you just made a beautiful comment full of the truth, but none of it is gonna happen.

  • marcthepig

    Pay for defense, social security, and Medicare first. After that, spend only whatever is left over without borrowing.

    • PatrickJ

      If Chuck Schumer is reading this, he just fell out of his chair laughing. Good comment, though.

  • ginjit.dw

    This is the problem with mcconnel……pick a fight you can win….he couldn’t sell food to a starving man…

  • James Higginbotham

    Medicare is NOT AN ENTITLEMENT, only MORONS LIKE RYAN THINK SO.
    ALL of us on Medicare PAY A PREMIUM AND it’s those on SSI why are considered an ENTITLEMENT CLASS because they pay NOTHING.

    • Harold Swift

      The word might have been Medicaid..

      • PatrickJ

        They are often confused. Below is an explanation from Medicare Interactive. They have more info on their site.

        Medicaid is not the same as Medicare.

        Medicare is a federal program that provides health coverage if you are 65 or older or have a severe disability, no matter your income.

        Medicaid is a state and federal program that provides health coverage if you have a very low income.

        If you are eligible for both Medicare and Medicaid (dual eligible), you can have both. Medicare and Medicaid will work together to provide you with very good health coverage.

      • James Higginbotham

        that also.
        thanks.

  • Expat47

    Congresspeople earn minimum wage X 2, sign onto social security ONLY, enjoy whatever healthcare is available to their constituents, and cut out ALL FOREIGN AID until we’re out of debt.

    Or… make the state’s pay for their congress people. Why would they be paid by federal dollars anyhow??? They’re SUPPOSED to be working for the people of their state.

  • Scott Henke

    Congress better get their act together or they will pay bigly during the mid-terms, then bye-bye President Trump. It’s like the Establishment didn’t figure out last year that We The People are sick and tired of their nonsense.

    • Harold Swift

      Trump stays, the rinos go.

    • PatrickJ

      Only thing that I would add it that it’s not the President’s fault.

  • Frank Atwood

    You die-hard Republicans embedded deep in the deep state haven’t figured out the Democrats aren’t going to vote for anything Trump or you all want to do, which might keep them from lining their pockets with money from all outlets tied to Medicare, SS and anything pertaining to healthcare where they can get rich and money free without any strings attached. Both sides are guilty of such deeds and until the swamp is cleaned out, nothing big will happen till it is cleaned out once and for all, if ever.

    • PatrickJ

      You make a good comment Frank, except for the opening sentence. I don’t think most of us die-hard Republicans think of ourselves as being part of the “deep state.” In the United States, the deep state is an alleged entity that coordinates efforts by government employees and others to influence state policy without regard for democratically elected leadership.

      The “deep state” apparently has Trump in its sights, at least according to former NSA intelligence analyst John Schindler, who tweeted that a friend in the “intelligence community” told him that Trump “will die in jail.” While that may or may not happen, Trump recognizes how the deep state operates in the shadows to undermine his Presidency. I and many others agree with him.

      • nfcapitalist

        James Clapper and Diane Feinstein threatening OIG Charles McCullough who uncovered the gagging of FBI investigators following the URANIUM ONE scandal as ordered by Loretta Lynch… deep state personified.

  • Richard

    Barack
    Obama allowed the terror group Hezbollah to sell $200 million in
    cocaine annually in American cities to facilitate Iran nuclear deal.

    • PatrickJ

      It’s true. In a nutshell, Obama allowed Hezbollah to operate a multi-billion dollar cocaine distribution and money laundering scheme IN THE UNITED STATES to “soften up” Iran for nuclear talks.

      Good article about it on ISRAPUNDIT.

      • Richard

        Thank You for the comment. I would really like to see this investigated as it is a complete travesty if it actually is a fact or in any way true.

  • Gregory

    Let’s get something straight…social security is NOT an entitlement. The money that went in to it was paid by employees and employers…not the government. The gov’t pillaged SS to balance the books. The politicians should have kept their hands off the money.

    • Rufus Firefly

      Social Security IS an entitlement

      • Gregory

        Rufus, entitlements are taxpayer monies. Social security was paid by employees and employers, not the government. Wherein lies the problem is the government stole the money.

    • PatrickJ

      You are correct, Gregory. I thought it was common knowledge. Social Security is an earned benefit, bought and paid for through decades of hard, sometimes disagreeable work. Every payday since we began working, we have contributed 6.2% of our income, matching our employer’s 6.2% paid into Social Security on our behalf.

      As for the government supposedly stealing the Social Security Trust Fund of 2.6 trillion dollars, that’s where the fun begins. The government says they took the money and replaced it with government bonds. They have argued that the trust fund is full of “good-as-gold” U.S. Treasury Bonds that could be used to pay full Social Security benefits until at least 2037 without any changes.

      But It has been clear for quite some time that the trust fund contained no real assets. David Walker, Comptroller General of the GAO, stated on January 21, 2005, “There are no stocks or bonds or real estate in the trust fund. It has nothing of real value to draw down.” On April 5, 2005, President George W. Bush finally acknowledged the empty trust fund by saying, “There is no trust fund, just IOUs that I saw firsthand that future generations will pay—will pay for either in higher taxes, or reduced benefits, or cuts to other critical government programs.”

      • PatrickJ

        If you are interested in reading more on the subject, go to HNN (Higgins News Network) and search for:
        How Your Social Security Money Was Stolen – Where Did The $2.5 Trillion Surplus Go?

  • CDG

    Honestly, the amount of money we owe is so large that, short of a major economic breakthrough, we would need to partially nationalize the energy sector if we are ever going to get out of the Obama/rest of the President’s deficit spending hole we are in. If I am not mistaken every other nation in the world maintains either a partial or, in most cases, a total financial control of their energy sectors. While I prefer a government-free energy sector this may need to be done in the future. Especially if another major war comes around and discounted oil is needed for the war effort. Receiving royalties only ain’t cutting it.

    • PatrickJ

      Here’s something that’s really fun and eye-opening at the same time. Do a web search for “what does twenty trillion dollars look like?” Then look for Demonocracy Info. It will take you to a visual article.

      Our national debt is a joke really. There is absolutely no way in Hell we will ever be able to pay it.

  • Al Lejdly

    There are two primary campaigns I WILL donate to this coming year, the two challengers to Cryan and McConman.

  • Al Lejdly

    Why are they so scared of welfare? They don’t get their votes from those people. Proof this country has turned completely bass ackwards when you punish the people pulling the cart and reward the ones riding in it. If they mess with medicare and SS they for sure are wanting to lose control in 18 and they will have deserved it. You just can’t fix stooopid!

  • Gary Lipking

    Get rid of Ryan and McConnell. Keep your hands off of Medicare and Social Security. Pay back what you stole from Social Security!!!!

    • CDG

      The money taken, initially, by the Johnson Administration to help pay for the Vietnam War will never be paid back. It’s simply in a revolving I.O.U. status. A ponzu scheme. It’s why government officials pay lip service to the national debt but are not making the changes necessary to pay it down. Almost 6 trillion is in SSA obligations. They are not worried about it nor is the world. As long as oil is sold in Dollars we will be able to keep printing money (not that we should). It will remain this way as long as our relationship with the Saudi Royal family stays strong.

  • wylie123

    Medicaid is not an entitlement, it is welfare, and needs reform badly. Obama put as many people on the rolls as possible and their dogs. Medicare is a premium based program which Medicaid is not,

    Welfare programs should have a maximum time limit and no permanent members. Social Security is a program with a cost to the workers associated with it and politicians, starting with Lyndon Johnson, have raided the funds.

    Democrats should be forced to pay back all they have stolen.

    • Rufus Firefly

      Most Medicaid goes to nursing homes.

      • wylie123

        Not particularly true, and the rolls of Medicaid were bloated by Obama. Check your numbers.

        • Rufus Firefly

          Check yours

          • wylie123

            I have, and CMS states that inpatient service, which is not inclusive of nursing homes, accounted for 25% of the costs while nursing homes accounted for about 1.5% They were at the bottom of the list.

          • Al Lejdly

            You’re wasting your time with professor knowsit.

  • Paul Hand

    I Also believe that all premium plans (Perks), salary’s and medical plans should be null and void once your term is over. When is enough enough. We Republican’s believe that you work for your money, save and invest your money. but once your out. go do something else: the Gravy train must stop .

  • Matt

    Reduce FRAUD in Medicaid, medicare, food stamps, ect…
    How? a National Photo ID card
    If they could reduce the fraud by 20% that would be in
    the 10’s of BILLIONS of dollars or more saved per year,
    This is something that should have happened 20 years ago

    • Rufus Firefly

      Republicans don’t like national ID cards

      • Matt

        Democrats call it Racist

        • Rufus Firefly

          No. You conflate voter ID with national cards.

          • Matt

            Any mention of a national Photo Id card which will be used as a voting id card
            has been Challenged EVERY time by Democrats as RACIST and
            Discriminatory

          • Rufus Firefly

            No. State laws are used to suppress minority voters through arbitrary and capricious rules.

            To issue National ID cards would require some massive initial registration process that would affect everyone. As long as the process accommodates everyone fairly , I see no problem.

    • CDG

      A National I.D. card, while potential very helpful, smacks too much of a “Big Brother” government and would cost a lot in initial startup and maintaining. Basically creating, and funding, an entire new government entity. Some companies are already pushing microchips to be implanted under the skin to pay for things. You can already do it with just your phone or wrist watch… It will be the next big thing that sheep will willing go along with because they have grown up, and are comfortable, with tech. Not me. Very scary.

    • nfcapitalist

      The obvious just got too easy to understand… voter ID and use it for identifying those in need and expose those who are stealing from all of us, rich or poor.

  • Ken

    Based on employment numbers, job openings are going unfilled… They need to first reinstate the law that all able bodied welfare recipients after 6 weeks, must have at least a part time job, or be in training to qualify for work. Sitting at home watching TV, and / or using drugs should not qualify for government handouts. They also need to find and eliminate fraud! Then downsize the government since Obama’s job creation plan was to bloat the government, and he was very successful… Also big government pension plans need to be eliminated and they need to be put on Social Security like everyone else. (Military retirement is different for several reasons.)

    • Rufus Firefly

      Most recipients already work. Check the numbers rather than using anecdotes.

  • 2EdgedSword

    Eliminate Medicaid, all the free stuff for illegals, and student loans for liberal arts students in sanctuaries. Cut everything going to. CA, IL,

    • Rufus Firefly

      Most of Medicaid expenditures go to nursing home care for indigent elderly. You will also find that California pays more in taxes than it receives in federal benefits.

      • wylie123

        Myths, both of the statements and you know it. Stop spreading lies.

        • Rufus Firefly

          You should verify things before calling lies.

          • wylie123

            check CMS figures before you look real ignorant.

          • Al Lejdly

            He doesn’t have to look it, he is it.

  • Bud

    saying Medicare is the biggest entitlement that needs reform.

    Medicare is a perfect example of government over-promising and attempting to be all things to all people. Workers pay all their working lives for Medicare with the expectation that the will be medically taken care of in their old age. HA. I read some time ago that senior citizens under Medicare spend just as big a portion of their incomes on medical care as before Medicare, and I very definitely believe that.

    More than 12% of my modest pension goes for various Medicare premiums BEFORE I EVER RECEIVE ANY MEDICAL CARE AT ALL. Now I discover that I cannot receive a refill on my pain medication without paying for another doctor’s office visit, even though my next appointment is not for six more weeks. I need to take a pain pill right now for a severe pain in my lower back but do not want to take one for fear of running out before a refill can be obtained.

  • Fed Up !

    It is time We the People take back our country from the thieving politicians.

  • Sure, Not

    I applaud the effort. If you want to make a big dent in the deficit, start with the biggest-ticket items.

    As the comments here suggest, there will be much fear and hysteria in the process, which will certainly be amplified by the leftist media. But I hope that everyone can maintain a little optimism that sensible reforms and waste-reduction are possible within the hundreds of billions of “entitlement“ dollars that are collected and distributed every year.

    • Rufus Firefly

      SS and Medicare are entitlements.

      • Sure, Not

        What’s your point?

      • Bud

        Yes, they are entitlements. There is not, however, a bottomless pit of money available to pay the promised benefits, comrade.

      • Al Lejdly

        Entitlements paid for in advance. Now shut up!

  • Richard McMeekin

    “The Lord Giveth and the Lord Taketh Away.”

    Ditto the House & Senate! Amen? AMEN!!!

  • Tado

    Who will work with whom?
    Who will follow who?
    Democrats are widely known for the Hate.
    Republicans are widely known for the Hypocrisy.
    H+H= ???

  • JL Ziegler

    I know Mitch McConnell has a job up there but Mitch, ask Trump for advice on this one?

  • SaidNO2Liberalism

    SS is not entitlement because folks were forced to pay into the system in the form of automatic deductions from their paychecks. Politicians, from both sides, know this and have been stealing from this fund to pay for other things. This is just wrong and we demand a cease and desist with any notion about touching our money .

    • All American

      FDR on Social Security
      “This law represents a cornerstone in a structure which is being built but is by no means completed–a structure intended to lessen the force of possible future depressions, to act as a protection to future administrations of the Government against the necessity of going deeply into debt to furnish relief to the needy–a law to flatten out the peaks and valleys of deflation and of inflation–in other words, a law that will take care of human needs and at the same time provide for the United States an economic structure of vastly greater soundness.” -August 14, 1935

    • Bud

      It is very definitely an entitlement. You pay your hard-earned money every payday for decades and are theoretically “entitled” to receive the promised benefits.

      • Al Lejdly

        Beat me to it. Now welfare on the otherhand is NOT an entitlement, it’s a vote buyer.

  • MAGA woman

    Sorry guys, but Medicare is NOT an entitlement if I have been paying into it for about 50 years.

    • Rufus Firefly

      It IS an entitlement because you are entitled to it by law.

      • Al Lejdly

        To be more precise, it’s an entitlement because he paid for it.

    • tedlv

      Only 45 for me.

    • Bud

      And the promise to you was that you would be entitled to certain benefits in your golden years. How is that NOT an entitlement?

      • nfcapitalist

        LBJ and the congress connected the SS Fund to the General Fund in 1969 which was theft of what was redefined by those swine as being “overfunded” meaning the SSI would today be well funded to support those who paid into it would have benefits from their contributions… right, MAGA woman?

        You’re welcome, Bud.

    • nfcapitalist

      LBJ and Congress committed theft when they connected SSI to the General Fund…. today these swine think we’ve forgotten that larceny.

  • Legion

    Hawaii as well.

  • Just A Guy

    These leeches represent the biggest entitlement crowd I’ve ever seen in my life. But hey…go ahead and vote them in again. Then come back here tomorrow and cry.

  • Leon Carroll

    we can’t do anything now, it is an election year we might lose a vote by doing the right thing. heard the same thing for 40 years

  • Jim

    Check with Nancy, I’m sure she has lots of good ideas.

    • Bud

      But you’ll have to pass it to see what’s in it.

  • Patriot Momma

    Ryan says medicare is an entitlement!!!!!!!!!!!! I paid into SS for 50 years. I think I am more entitled then the illegals coming here. Go ahead Ryan, make my day.

    • Rufus Firefly

      Medicare IS an entitlement because you are entitled by law. “Entitlement” is not a synonym of “welfare”

    • Legion

      Exactly .. that money belongs to us all, any of us that work and pay into that system.
      Illegals have no business drawing from OUR pot!!

      • Legion

        Get Your Hands Out Of Our Pockets Liberals!!

        • Rufus Firefly

          Ryan is not a liberal

          • Bud

            Ryan is not exactly a conservative, comrade Rufus.

          • Rufus Firefly

            Yes. He is. The Trumpist definition of conservative is racist neo-nazi

  • FLLoeffler

    Who told you that? In Texas they get free school, food, and health care. In CA. they get that and also if you are a felon you get pardened and help in running away from ICE.

    • Rufus Firefly

      Illegals are not eligible for welfare anywhere.

    • All American

      A very sad state of the “Union?”

    • MAGA woman

      And in CA you can vote illegally. You can even be dead and vote. That’s how Hillary had 4 million more than Trump in November.

      • Rufus Firefly

        That is a trumpist fantasy

        • chip

          If you know the laws and how they are manipulated to get illegals to vote then you will realize he is right. In Maryland I was in law enforcement. My division worked hand in hand with the Motor Vehicle Administration. When an illegal came into the MVA to get a driver’s license they were prohibited from asking the “customer” if they were legally or illegally in the country. Some MVA employees saw the same birth certificate used by different people several times in a week and were instructed to overlook the problem. The next step is they are then handed a registration form to register to vote which is part of Maryland’s Motor/Voter law. The only thing that stops an illegal from voting is their honesty. If they mark the “X” saying they are legally in the country they are automatically registered to vote as a “citizen” of the USA and Maryland.

  • Ray

    Hey RINO Ryan, social Security IS NOT an entitlement! We have paid for 40+ years into the program, so hands off!

    • Hummer

      The trust fund is an iou from what I understand thanks to politicians.

      • tedlv

        LBJ nationalized SS to pay down the debt and make himself look good.

  • Shane Norkus

    What’s to ‘clash’ about?

    Abolishing taxpayer-funded handouts to adult parasite bums is a no-brainer. It’s way past time to end LBJ’s ‘Great Society” and ‘War on Poverty’ social-engineering programs. These deadbeats need to get jobs and pay their fair share in taxes.

    Medicare doesn’t need to be overhauled, but Medicaid certainly does.

    • Rufus Firefly

      So YOUR government handouts are OK, but not the other fellow’s?

      • Shane Norkus

        what taxpayer-funded handouts would those be, rufus firefly?

        • Rufus Firefly

          Your Medicare, your Social Security, your mortgage deduction, for example

          • Shane Norkus

            Social Security and Medicare are not handouts. Every person who has a job, except politicians, have paid into both, so those are not entitlements, but earned.

            Entitlements are those taxpayer handouts to welfare and medicaid recipients, who haven’t paid anything into them. All forms of welfare taxpayer-funded subsidies should be be abolished out of hand..

            I don’t have a mortgage deduction because all my houses are paid for.

            Anything else?

          • Rufus Firefly

            You are wrong. Entitlements are those things to which you are entitled by law. Such as SS and Medicare. You have paid far less into the system than you will receive.

          • Bud

            If we have paid far less into the system than we will receive, then doesn’t that demonstrate the government’s inability to be trusted with our money? And yet liberals want us to trust the government with even MORE?

          • Shane Norkus

            silly little boy, stop playing at being an adult. go back to your mom’s basement and play your video games. you’ve no idea what you’re writing about.

            there was an excellent article at American Thinker several weeks ago explaining all this. obviously, you missed a very important educational opportunity.

            buh-bye.

          • Rufus Firefly

            Who cares what your silly blog post says? When Ryan says he’s going after entitlements next, he includes Social Security and Medicare.

          • Shane Norkus

            silly little boy, Ryan doesn’t know WTF he’s talking about. he’s using the term ‘entitlements’ incorrectly. entitlements are taxpayer-funded handouts to adult parasite losers like yourself, who don’t work, just take.

          • Rufus Firefly

            Do you just not get it? It does not matter what your alt-right definition of the word is. Ryan is going after SS and Medicare, regardless of your terminology.

          • Bud

            How can a mortgage deduction be a handout? Or at least as long as it is not “refundable.” (I should not give them any bright ideas!) Reducing the amount of taxes confiscated from a citizen’s paycheck is not a handout at all. It’s the citizen’s money!

            As for Medicare and Social Security, certain benefits were promised in return for those paycheck deductions. As such, they could be considered only by imbeciles to be a handout.

  • Winabego

    One state gets more than 70 percent of all welfare and that state is YOU GUESSED IT CALIFORNIA.

    • Rufus Firefly

      That is a complete fabrication

      • Bud

        You’re right. California soaks up only about 35% of all welfare.

        • Rufus Firefly

          Wrong again. Blue states, in general require less federal aid.

  • Wes Hamrick

    Just enforce the laws and look into everyone on medicare and medicaid, but really, there is much more important items, like the wall, freebee entitlements like welfare and food stamps and free phones, and college, and aliens getting preferential treatment and so much more, You can ruin your careers later by even thinking about messing with medicare now..BUILD THE WALL

  • fixento

    Until the Republicans require the physical and mentally able men and women to work for their keep, the Democrats will continue to provide entitlements to the poor blacks, whites and Hispanics to keep them in economic slavery for their votes. Remove the entitlements from those able to work, the economy booms, the deficit goes down and the Democrats party be left with the globalist, progressives and nuts as members.

    • Rufus Firefly

      Those “able to work” who are not already number about 300,000

      • Bud

        You have no idea what the number actually is. It has to be much higher than your figure, as Obama brought us the LOWEST workforce participation among those of working age in the last 40 years.

        • Rufus Firefly

          And you are correct because?

      • fixento

        I don’t know the accuracy of you number but there are over 52.2 million people on welfare in the US. I would suggest 10 percent cant work due to mental and physical conditions but rest are nothing but economic slaves to the Democratic party that removes their hope and self respect that willing to vote Democratic for their substance.

        • Rufus Firefly

          Your estimate is ridiculously low. When you remove children, old people in nursing homes, retirees, disabled, and those already working (some with multiple part time jobs) – there are about 300,000 able but not working.

      • fixento

        I don’t know the accuracy of you number but there are over 52.2 million people on welfare in the US. I would suggest 10 percent cant work due to mental and physical conditions but rest are nothing but economic slaves to the Democratic party that removes their hope and self respect that willing to vote Democratic for their substance

  • C B

    I have an idea ! Why don’t we deport all the illegals that are costing us Billions upon Billions of dollars to support , house , educate and supply medical treatment …………

  • Daniel J. Lopez

    Here’s a good start…The more Countries and regions Leaders order their staffs to cut Diplomatic Ties With U.S. the more money we’re saving. State Dept. gave Palestinians $357 million and Additionally, in 2016 alone, the US contributed $355,177,827 to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNWRA), of which $95 million was earmarked for the West Bank and Gaza. Also quit giving benefits and aid to Illegal immigrants and sanctuary states.

  • landy fincannon

    Let’s go back 17 years.

    Donald Rumsfeld announced that 2.3 trillion dollars went unaccounted for on September 10th, 2001.
    We all remember where we were at the following. Something that will forever remain etched in our minds.

    In an era of 4 trillion dollar budgets it would take an army of accountants to watch over the spending.

    • Bud

      Doesn’t the government employ two armies of accountants? What are they doing?

  • No Mas

    Why don’t you focus on the waste, abuse and fraud first, show how much you saved,,, then get some of these losers jobs and you wont need as many on the taxpayer dole…
    Major entitlement reform should happen after you have cleaned up all you can and after the midterms or the next presidential WIN!

    • WSWSapphire

      Yes… and whether they believe it or not, those able to work will actually feel better doing so. With all the new jobs & programs such as apprenticeships, among others… they have an even greater choice to begin a journey towards a goal they may begin to envision for themselves(and yes, bring new voters Pres. Trump’s direction as the one whose policies helped get them there).

      • Rufus Firefly

        So you will empty the nursing homes so those folks can work? Most medicaid goes to the elderly.

        • Winabego

          Knock California off the payroll problem SOLVED!

        • FLLoeffler

          Wrong MEDICADE goes to those who can’t afford regular medical aid! Medicare goes to those over sixty two.

          • Rufus Firefly

            Check before calling wrong. Medicare is for medical care (NOT including long term care) for those over 65. The vast majority of Medicaid goes to long term care of indigent seniors.

          • Bud

            Considering the millions of layabouts who are receiving Medicaid, I would doubt your characterization of “the vast majority.”

          • Rufus Firefly

            Then look at the numbers

          • All American

            Medicaid is based on earnings there is a threshold. Of course if you don’t work at all and you don’t speak the language you automatically qualify.

          • Rufus Firefly

            Wrong. As usual.

          • Bud

            Many of those in nursing homes do not have adequate benefits to cover the costs. Medicaid is brought in to cover the balance in many cases. So Comrade Rufus is correct to a degree.

          • Rufus Firefly

            Not to a degree. Just correct.

    • All American

      Close the freeking Sanctuary Cities

  • Reduce the size and scope of the federal government!!!
    Eliminate the unconstitutional agencies and departments to start.
    Dept. of Education (schools suck), Dept. of Transportation (infrastructure is bad), Dept. of Housing and Urban Affairs (BTW have done such a fantastic job in our inner cities), Dept. of Energy, etc.
    There’s plenty of waste, fraud, and duplication to go around.
    Stop the SPENDING!!!!!!

    • landy fincannon

      That’s the only to tame the beast known as the federal government.

    • All American

      What did Barry use $13 Trillion Dollars on? He drastically cut military spending, he defunded schools, he defunded the border, social security had no cost of living raise he destroyed industry where did $13 Trillion Dollars go??????

      • tedlv

        Barry. He’s filthy rich now.

        • All American

          Or just filthy

          • tedlv

            Or both.

      • captainbars

        into his tax loop hole, off shore, under the radar, private bank accounts (I ignore replies, so, hateful, snarky, remarks will have to be held in)

        • All American

          Oh Captain My Captain YOU Hit IT👍🏻

  • Mike

    Cut foreign aid. If it’s not in a treaty, it’s not constitutional. Cut all benefits of every kind to anyone here illegally. It’s long past time citizens are priority.
    Cut Congressional salary and benefits. It’s part time work; they get part time pay, and they pay their own healthcare.
    Term limits for all elected positions would be a cherry on top.

  • kaiju

    Civil service pensions are and have been out of control. Retirement ages for them are ridiculously low. They should be no different than for SS recipients.

    I’d like to see Medicare reformed too. Remove illegals from it entirely and reduce benefits to the welfare leeches to the bare bones. Only those that have paid in over their working careers for themselves and their families should get full benefits.

    • WSWSapphire

      Would just add, those who deservedly receive SSDI -Soc.Sec.Disability, which includes SSI(Medicare paid out of their SSDI & state insur. which pays co-pays), to receive full benefits. However, the fraud in those programs alone, is monumental – and that doesn’t include the illegal nonsense foisted on us by Ob. So cutting out ALL who should not be on benefits, would benefit ALL greatly.
      Re retirement age in civil service – yes, esp. when from what I remember, retirement age is steadily rising for everyone else.

      • All American

        Yes. Social Security needs to be beefed up when our government trims the pfatt in the Ethics Commission.

        • WSWSapphire

          So true, as to me, at least, the Ethics Commission appears it may be anything but.

          • All American

            So true! They appear to be as useless as a teet on wooly bully.

        • kaiju

          Ethics Commission is like in the company I used to work for. Their ethics hotline was just a way to out potential whistle-blowers before any news of corruption got outside the company.

  • Salvatore L Trentacoste

    Hay FRIGIN idiot members of Congress.YES RYAN THAT INCLUDES YOU FRIGIN ASS..Medicare and Social Security are NOT FRIGIN entitlement programs. we SENIORS paid into them with our payroll taxes..YOU FRIGIN MORONS RAIDED THE TRUST FOR 7 TRILLION DOLLARS .PUT that money BACK.and it will be just fine.

    • All American

      I second this👍🏻

    • Rufus Firefly

      You did not pay anywhere near the cost. They ARE entitlement programs, which merely means that you are entitled to them by law.

      • Disgusted by the Misleadia

        I don’t know the exact comparison for Medicare, but recent and near-future retirees have contributed something near the actuarial cost of their Social Security benefits, because the payroll tax rate was increased substantially in the 70’s and 80’s.

        People that retired in the 70’s/80’s and even a bit later paid much lower tax rates, but their benefits were rapidly increased by the COLA during the double-digit inflation of the 80’s. Those retires collected far more in benefits than they ever paid in payroll taxes, even taking the time value of money into account.

        Keep in mind that Social Security is a generational income transfer, so most payroll taxes are almost immediately paid to current beneficiaries. But, baby boomers paid for their parents and grandparent’s benefits, as well as making a “down payment” on their own future benefits. That’s why the Social Security Trust Fund has nearly $3 trillion. Withdrawals started a few years ago, but the interest income is sufficient to keep increasing the balance until about 2022.

    • Disgusted by the Misleadia

      Sorry, but Medicare and Social Security are entitlement programs. The term comes from the fact that the benefits are provided by law, and not by contract. You have no contractual right to Social Security benefits, as the Supreme Court ruled back in 1960. The only thing preventing the government from reducing or even ending Social Security benefits in the next decade is Congress themselves.

      Nearly all of the payroll taxes you paid went to your parents and grandparents and other recipients, shortly after you paid it. A small percentage of it went into the Trust Fund(s), which are being drawn to make up the difference between taxes received and benefits paid. It started a few years ago, and will end about 2034.

      Why did I qualify it with “in the next decade”. If nothing is changed, Social Security will be required to reduce benefits about 23% across the board after 2034, when the Trust Fund runs out. They can’t borrow money, so they would have no choice. Congress would have to raise the payroll tax from 6.2% to about 8.2% (on both employees and employers) to avoid benefit reductions.

      Want to fix it right now? Congress would have to increase the payroll tax to 7.6%, or reduce all benefits by 17%. That’s the magnitude of the problem, and it just gets worse every year.

      Don’t believe me? You can find all of these numbers on page 5 of the 2017 Annual Report by the Social Security Trustees.

      • MAGA woman

        If I have no right to the money I contributed, then how come they have been sending me letters telling me how much I will receive if I retire on time v.s. A few years later?

        • Disgusted by the Misleadia

          According to the law at the moment, that’s what you are entitled to.

          I haven’t received a letter for several years, and have to go to their website and print it myself. But go ahead and look at yours — either a recent one or perhaps the last one you received. You’ll find a footnote right under the benefit amounts. This is what it says on mine that I just generated, and is dated 12/27/2017:

          “Your estimated benefits are based on current law. Congress has made changes to the law in the past and
          can do so at any time. The law governing benefit amounts may change because, by 2034, the payroll taxes
          collected will be enough to pay only about 79 percent of scheduled benefits.”

          Hmmm. That’s almost exactly what I wrote in my previous posting.

          You might notice that it doesn’t say anything about an account “balance”. It doesn’t even tell you how much you have paid in payroll tax during your career.

          It simply details how much of your income was subject to the payroll tax each year, so you can be sure it was all reported. You can figure out your contributions by looking up the payroll tax rate for each year, but it’s irrelevant to anyone but you.

          Here’s a dirty little secret: your Social Security benefit (called the “Primary Insurance Amount, or PIA) is calculated for your “full retirement age” (FRA), based on your average indexed monthly earnings (AIME) from the best 35 years of your working career.

          It’s not a linear calculation, and ranges from 90% of your AIME at the bottom, to 15% of your AIME at the top. The actual calculation depends on “bend point” values that are set the year you turn 62. Before that, it’s just an estimate.

          Then, the PIA is adjusted downward by 8% per year (prorated by month) to age 62 at the earliest, and upward by 8% per year to age 70 at the latest.

          Note that I never wrote anything about how much you actually contributed, or any rates of return — real or implied. That’s because they don’t figure into how your benefit is calculated. That is set by law, not by contributions or investment return.

          The Social Security Administration website has a webpage that explains how this is done, in excruciating detail. Or, you can find it on a number of financial websites. The SSA also has a Windows program called AnyPIA to do it up, although I’ve found it’s not easy to use.

      • whoselineisitanyway

        MEDICAID IS A BIG PROBLEM.

      • HML

        2034, the CBO says that’s the year the SHTF…………..

    • Mary Hasting

      Salvatore L Trentacoste: Actually, Medicare and Social Security ARE entitlement programs. We are ENTITLED to Social Security because we paid for it for years and years. I get really aggravated when these idiot politicians refer to welfare, EBT cards and medicaid as “entitlements”. They are charity. These people are not “entitled” to charity.

      • Disgusted by the Misleadia

        No, you are entitled to Social Security because the law says you are entitled to it. That’s it, period, finito. It has nothing to do with what you paid. It’s currently based on your average wages over the best 35 years of your career.

        The law can be changed. It has been, several times. Congress has even revoked Social Security benefits for small sets of people, and Obama signed the latest one. The Supreme Court upheld the first revocation back in 1960, establishing the precedent that you have no contractual right to it.

        • Matt

          social security was designed as a widows and orphans fund

          • Zotus

            Not true in the least. Google any historical references to SS intents. The idea of a federally funded pension plan was popularized by Francis Townsend. It was designed as a retirement fund.

          • Disgusted by the Misleadia

            Social Security isn’t a “retirement fund”, or a “pension plan”. It’s an inter-generational income transfer program. FDR even said one purpose was to encourage older people to stop working, so they jobs could be filled by younger unemployed workers. You can find it in his fireside chat on 1935-04-28.

            If you want an example of a national “retirement” or “pension” plan, Australia replaced their program similar to Social Security with a “Superannuation” plan back in the 80’s. They realized that demographic changes would make it impossible to sustain the inter-generational income transfer.

            The US realized we had the same problem about the same time, but instead chose to prop up Social Security with a huge payroll tax increase. It was supposed to be enough to fix it until about 2060, but the demographic and economic assumptions were too optimistic, and we are going to fall short about 25 years too early.

        • Zotus

          Social Security is funded by payroll tax deduction which goes into a fund that only those who have paid into can draw from. You are entitled to it if you paid into it unlike all the other freebie programs people feel entitled to. Saying you’re only entitled to it because the law says so is like saying you can only vote, buy a house do anything because the law says so. It’s true but you’re also entitled to it because you paid into it.

          • Disgusted by the Misleadia

            Your payroll taxes don’t go into a fund. It goes to current beneficiaries. The Trust Fund only contains the excess taxes that weren’t immediately needed to pay benefits. There hasn’t been any excess since 2009, so withdrawals started — about 7 years earlier than was expected. The Trust Fund is projected to be exhausted around 2034, and if that occurs without any action by Congress, benefits will be reduced across the board by about 23%.

            Not all beneficiaries paid taxes, as it also pays survivor benefits. However, contrary to popular belief, Supplemental Security Income benefits are not funded by payroll taxes, as the Social Security Administration only administrates the program. SSI is funded by general tax revenue.

            I will reiterate: your payroll taxes have nothing to do with your Social Security benefit. The law defines benefits according to your average wage income over the best 35 years of your career. The law has been changed several times, and it can be changed by Congress at any time. The only recourse you will have is to vote.

            If you don’t believe me, go to the Social Security website and request your statement. You will find the same statement, immediately following your estimate of benefits.

            I’m stressing this point over and over again so everyone will understand: if you plan to rely on Social Security for your retirement, you are making a risky bet.

    • Victoria B. Parisio

      AGREED, CUT YOUR OWN SALARIES AND LEAVE WHAT LITTLE WE HAVE ALONE, TELL ME THE LAST TIME YOU REALLY WORKED FOR YOURS, WHEN MOST OF US BUSTED OUR ASSES FOR WHAT LITTLE MONEY WE ACTUALLY GOT OVER THE MANY YEARS WE WORKED. AND IT’S NOT AN ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS. WE ARE ENTITLED BECAUSE WE BUSTED OUR ASSES WORKING FOR THOSE PROGRAMS….. LET ME ENLIGHTEN YOU, MEDICAID,WELFARE ARE WHAT YOU PRACTICALLY GIVE AWAY, THEY DON’T HAVE TO WORK FOR IT. WHEN YOU ARE ON WELFARE, YOU SHOULD EITHER HAVE TO WORK FOR YOU WELFARE CHECK OR GO TO SCHOOL TOWARDS A BETTER A JOB. IF YOU DON’T DO EITHER THEN YOU DON’T GET A CHECK. BEEN DOWN THAT ROAD, AT ONE POINT SO I KNOW. TOO MANY GENERATIONS LIVE OFF WELFARE PUT THEM TO WORK, AND LET THEM PAY TAXES OR GET SOME SCHOOLING AND GET A JOB AND PAY TAXES ONE OR THE OTHERS BUT DON’T BE A LEACH ON SOCIETY.

  • Sandman1002

    Ryan is a jerk off….Hey Ryan how about resigning you piece of $hit.

  • Roy Beane

    Here’s an idea……how about trimming back the over-bloated salaries, “Cadillac” medical, dental, disability, and life insurance coverage plans (That you all get for life for FREE), and obscenely over-bloated fat pensions for all the senators and congressmen in DC that you all have so carefully and deliberately have sheltered ? You baztards start screwing around with Medicare and Social Security is the fastest way I know of for you creeps to all end up on the unemployment line on election day if you piss off all the millions of senior citizens in this country.

    • Nancy McCabe

      Medicare has been raided by the government and all monies returned.

      • All American

        And no monies paid back my 🕊

      • FLLoeffler

        Obammie reided medicare to pay for his aca!

        • All American

          They started raiding it to fund war! Bush ‘borrowed’ $1.37 trillion of Social Security surplus revenue to pay for his tax cuts for the rich and his war in Iraq and never paid it back.” By law, the Social Security surplus is converted into bonds, and the cash is used by the Treasury to pay for government expenses.

    • Edman

      They’ve already raided the Social Security lock box. Status Quo & quid pro quo is all that crossing the aisle will accomplish, not real cuts.

      • Roy Beane

        Yeah remember back when LBJ was the first to rob Social Security blind back in the `60s to help fund the Vietnam War? Even a lot of Texans wanted to string him up back then over that.

        • james pence

          LBJ a ghost of Presidents past. His Great Society still hangs around the taxpayers neck to this day. This were the entitlement mentality, really got it’s momentum and the problems it created are haunting us today.

          • Roy Beane

            LBJ is still a hated man by many even today for all the shenanigans he pulled.

          • james pence

            I hope you don’t live under the rule of Jackson-Lee.

          • Roy Beane

            Nope, I don’t thank God. That old witch is in the same class as Hillary, Maxine Waters, Pelosi, and all other Dimmocraps of that gender who are all suffering from terminal Mad Cow Disease run AMOK.

          • james pence

            Well said Judge.

          • JustmJustm

            Terminal mad cow desese lol lol you cracked me up Thank you BUT THE TRUTH ITS IS VERY BEFITTING….

          • whoselineisitanyway

            Jackie Onassis (Kennedy), was said to be sure that LBJ and assorted figures, i.e.
            (demos) were behind his and Ted’s assassination(s)

          • Roy Beane

            Worked for awhile with a cousin of LBJ’s years ago, and he said the family for most part wanted nothing to do with him he was so crooked and underhanded. He said when JFK was killed, the family sort of looked at one another and said, “Well, Lyndon finally did it. We don’t know just how, but he did it alright.”

          • All American

            Totally believable

          • happygranny

            You mean Robert Kennedy not Ted.

          • whoselineisitanyway

            Yes, sorry for the error.
            Ted drive off the road and left a pregnant girl to die.

          • HML

            The poverty rate has been ~13% since 1965, a few years before his Great Society, that is where it remains to this day, for almost 50 years.

        • Ken

          While you may be a little bit correct, the main reason raided Social Security was to fund his “Great Society” welfare program to buy votes for years to come as he said. (I won’t use the words he used, and they have mostly been erased from the Internet.)

          • whoselineisitanyway

            I remember that and have told young folks that. A very few understand. I’m hoping they’re the ones that make it.

        • Sane_Person37

          Welfare/WIC (The great society) was and is a democrat voter breeder program. LBJ said at the time that “this will have those n—-s voting democrat for the next 50 years” Or 200 depending on which quote you believe.
          Social Security is not an entitlement. Not for me, I’ve been paying into it since I was 15 – 65 now. Honestly, the federal government is so corrupt, I can’t imagine it getting fixed.

          Grab your butts folks, and try to vote out the worst of the worst.

          PS – 50% of medicare is fraud. And could be fixed easily. So why hasn’t it been ? IBM offered obama hardware and software to significantly reduce the fraud, the moslem vermin said no.

          • All American

            Who would expect anything less from Soetoro? Not eye!!

        • Sonny Shaw

          Actually the first president to raid the SS Trust Fund was Harry Truman back in 1950 to fund the Korean war.

          • whoselineisitanyway

            We’re you around then?

          • Sonny Shaw

            Yes!

      • JustmJustm

        RAIDED??? Like made it bankrupt……that would fit it much better….

    • All American

      Cut x Presidential pension fund to 1/2 x 3 years and End Secret Servicecafter 1 year post Whitehouse exit😊

    • whoselineisitanyway

      Judge,
      I’ll vote for you.