Congress Working on Both Tax Bill, Budget Resolution Before End of Year

December 11, 2017
OAN Newsroom

President Trump, sen. graham discuss tax reform, government spending

As the push to overhaul the tax code continues, President Trump meets with a GOP senator to discuss cuts and reform.

The president and South Carolina lawmaker Lindsey Graham spoke Sunday while playing golf at Mar-a-Lago.

The White House says the two men discussed GOP led efforts to come up with a unified tax bill, and the importance of fully funding the country’s national security needs.

It’s a big week on Capitol Hill for lawmakers as they look to finalize tax legislation, and come up with a way to fund the government.

One America’s Emerald Robinson has more from Washington.

  • Charles Slavis

    In a last ditch effort to pass anything……….The President has invited both sides of the House and Senate to a beer and beans dinner……..This might be an effort to mask the fbi investigation…..

  • Richard McMeekin

    Dr. Food and I disagree. I served as a staffer in the House and as a Chief of Staff in the US Senate.
    Read “Confessions of Congressman X.” an anonymous expose about the life of what goes on in
    in the House. You can’t get anyone to pay attention to your piece of legislation until you have served at least 3 or more terms. Your initial terms are best spent providing the very best possible constituent services. You sign on legislation so you can at least bring that up to your constituency when you conduct “office hours” back in your district when the House or Senate is in recess. There are times when you can’t access the Speaker and there is a definite chain of command to be observed if you are low man on the totem pole as a Committee member. Being a member of either body is a seniority game from the get-go and remains this in perpetuity so long as you are able to hang on to your elected office. You get elected and initially plan to change the world and instead you are subjected to enforced humility as you find your voice and vote is a paltry 1/450th of the collective body. You do as you are told until you are sufficiently blooded with years
    in office to enable you to tell others what to do. The horde of those
    who lobby ignore you during your early years and then you can’t shed
    them once you are on a Committee and the latter gets progressively worse
    as you are “movin’ on up.”

  • PatrickJ

    Obvious from the comments here that not many of us trust our government and our politicians. Did get that right?

    • Rufus Firefly

      Thank Rush, Fox, Breitbart, Newt and others for that

      • landwell

        Because the Clintons, Reno, Holder, Obama, Rice, the Uniparty, BATFE, FBI, EPA, NSA, DHS etc … had nothing to do with it.

    • 808Americans

      I can only speak for myself but, yes your right.

  • eladtoor

    Yeah, we built a cage for the swampy creatures from the black lagoon, but were so stupid we left ourselves inside the cage.

  • eladtoor

    “CONGRESS WORKING ON…..”!!

    Stop the BS right there. The only thing the Congress is doing before the ‘end of the year’, is getting drunk and stoned, and they’ll sign anything put in front of them. Even if it’s put on the floor, right in front of their faces.

  • Tim Wilde

    I’d keep a watchful eye for open ended amnesty hidden within these bills? We already know that’s one of their often used tricks!

  • Tim Wilde

    I’d keep a watchful eye for open ended amnesty hidden within these bills? We already know that’s one of their often used tricks!

  • Jimbo

    Congress has drug their feet all year, like every year, and they act like they are working hard on the budget and tax relief. Lets not forget, the budget was due last September. The congress, led by McConnell and Ryan, ARE the swamp.

  • davej

    ONE BILL AT A TIME!!

  • davej

    “Congress” and “Working” should not be put in the same sentence.

    • Tim Wilde

      Unless you include against the people in the same sentence.

  • Donald York

    Thank you President Trump. MAGA.

  • Cur Traut

    Don’t worry, be happy? With Alabamans falling in love with the left, now, the tax bill is dead on arrival. Thank you Tide!

  • KevinR.

    You should ask yourself why you think you are owed something you did not earn and ask yourself why you think you have a right to the property of others.

    • Rufus Firefly

      Why should fees paid to fund managers be taxed at a lower rate than salaries or commissions of regular corporate schmucks or small business owners? Do fund managers and CEOs really “earn” their exorbitant compensation?

      • Cur Traut

        You don’t answer the question, you just throw up Standard socialist distractor questions. Go away, go far away.

      • KevinR.

        That is a more complex issue.

        Fees paid versus actual earned income are different.

        Yes, the “earn” their exorbitant compensation, even if we may not think they do. It is the contract that was negotiated between them and the company they work for.
        Some actually do earn it by leading the company well, others are just covered by the contract.
        If you do not like it, purchase enough stock in the company to have a significant voting block to change the CEO compensation.

        Why do you think you are owed something you did not earn? Why do you think you have a right to the property of other people?

        The top 10% of incomes pay 70% of the taxes. The bottom 30-40% pay nothing and actually have a negative tax rate.

        Your arguments fall apart against the facts.

  • KevinR.

    You might want to think about what you say… there are deductions, that you also use, and any other person, particularly those in business, small business. Business expenses and losses are deductible, yet, Trump still paid taxes.

    Where are his returns? With the IRS. There is no law requiring a candidate to release his tax returns.

    It is obvious you failed to read the tax bill, and only parrot the Marxist talking points and push your class warfare. The wealthier tax payers, the higher incomes will not see a decrease in their taxes, and might even see an increase.

    You seem to think it is fair for the top 10% of incomes to pay 70% of the taxes….
    Are you one of the bottom 30-40% who do not pay taxes, and actually get money from the IRS?

    • Cur Traut

      Assuming that’s a he, he is a truly disgusting and malevolent person.

  • Rick in TX

    I’m not a particular fan of Lindsey’s, but you could at least capitalize his name.

  • disqus_Rb9KvZy7uC

    No an Elivator Shaft from the 101st floor !

  • a voice of concern

    Working on a budget?
    Last Year Ryan took Obamas requested budget, added a few hundred BILLION to it and had it passed in 24 hours! No one in DC gave a dam about the debt, or revenue or waste or the military. they just rubber stamped it!

    • Rick in TX

      Obama’s budget didn’t get a single vote. Not even from a D.

  • redheadgirl

    And then someone can push him.

    • Cur Traut

      And tie The anvil around your waist and kick it down the shaft. Much of what you deserve.

  • jenshadus

    Unfortunately is the image of unlimited money that’s the problem. As long as they can tax us into submission, they will do nothing, and when we get taxed 90% of our salary, not matter how much we make whether is $10K a year or $100K a year, it won’t matter to them. It’s free money! It’s the billionaires that will encourage this, stomp us down like the ants we are. Revolution!

    • Advocate

      Revolution and term limits, kick out these people who have no business being there over one 6 year term.

  • jenshadus

    What the heck have these yahoos been doing this whole time? And what spending cuts…they are a bunch of cowards.

  • hertfordkc

    I’m resigned to watching McTurtle and GOPe continue their attempts to sabotage all things Trump.
    Go Moore!

    • Cur Traut

      Sorry, a truly terrible thing happened to America the night of December 12.

      • grandmother5

        I agree. I was wanting Moore to win.

      • Rufus Firefly

        You are so right. Alabama said no to a child molester, bigot, and opponent of the rule of law.

  • cavalier39

    Yes, that is a better solution.

  • Dr Food

    Not that this matters to you, however, I had the opportunity to serve my Town during the aftermath of the mini recession from 2009-2011 and can say without prejudice that government is broken beyond repair. It is too big, too cumbersome, too inefficient and too corrupt to simply fix by draining the swamp as there are too many career swamp creatures. Pure logic would dictate there is little support in reducing the size of any government agency, as that is where the swamp creatures work. AND, that is where the final product is delivered. The Congress does next to nothing as far as spending is concerned and they are basically too ill-informed to make funding decisions. When they do, they rely on their aides to tell them what to do and how to vote. Most of them are too busy campaigning and donating to their National Party coffers to do any productive work. Check YOUR Congressional representatives for legislation that they personally sponsored (not signed on as a signatory) to see how much of an impact on your life they represent.

    At the end of the day, we, the people, are pawns in their game of “trust me, I work for you” nonsense in order to maintain their privileged lifestyle. Is is a sad state of affairs that can only be “fixed” by instituting term limits. Absent a Constitutional Convention of the States, good luck with that.

    • HarryObrian

      Brilliantly said.

    • redheadgirl

      I totally agree. There are men and women in Congress who have been there since the Stone Age. Some of them must actually be made of stone since they don’t mind passing a bill that favors the uber rich while cutting necessary healthcare programs for children. That is only one example of the horrendous bill. Ryan states that Medicare and SS are next to balance the budget so that we can reward the billionaires. Something is very wrong. We have to vote smarter.

      • Cur Traut

        Social Security, Medicare, and all other programs to help elderly, have been in Ryan’s primary target list since long before he became speaker. Expect nothing but woe from him.

      • Twinkle Toes

        Give an actual example of a bill that favored the Uber rich (your words) that was passed.

        • redheadgirl

          W.’s tax cut, in addition to creating the great recession, favored the wealthy. ” This chart from
          the Congressional Research Service suggests that the Bush tax cuts,
          which significantly reduce top marginal tax rates and capital gains
          rates, helped widen income inequality in the 2000s. As the report says,
          “as the top tax rates are reduced, the share of income accruing to the
          top of the income distribution increases — that is, income disparities
          increase.” This chart shows how the percentage of income flowing to the
          top 0.1 percent of earners increases as top tax rates decrease.”

          • Twinkle Toes

            Your response is an article in the Washington Post, a liberal biased newspaper, that obtained information from an organization heavily funded by people who are Democrats; it is not an example of a bill.

    • CD Ard

      A bunch of filthy Marxists are now the population voting. Minorities and illegals, plus the nasty woman coalition. They are bottom feeder thieves demanding class warfare.

    • PatrickJ

      I would certainly agree. Excellent comment.

  • Rufus Firefly

    This “middle class tax cut” is anything but. Republiecons are setting up a massive debt increase by paying off their rich donors. If it’s completed, they will use the massive debt argument to cut medicare and social security. They have already said so. This is another assault on our system. No hearings, no debate, back room deals, and massive drafting errors that will introduce new loopholes for trumpie’s buddies.

    • jenshadus

      The definition of rich depends. I know some ‘rich’ people that pay 70% in taxes if you include sales, property, state and fed taxes. the ‘rich’ will still be contributing 80% to the government. How’s that for fair share?

      • redheadgirl

        The rich are doing well. I live on the border of a very wealthy community. There are tear downs everywhere. New mansions arise all the time. Have no pity for the wealthy. Their lawyers have them paying no taxes. Remember how Trump bragged how smart he was because he paid no taxes.

        • KevinR.

          Actually, the wealthy, those you seem to hate, pay the taxes.

          The Top 10% of incomes, pay 70% of the taxes, while the Bottom 30-40% pay no taxes and actually pay a negative tax rate, which means they get money from the IRS…..

          Trump never said he did not pay taxes, he said he paid less taxes, because he was smart and used the tax code as it is written. He still paid millions in taxes.

          • redheadgirl

            Check it out. He bragged in one of the debates with Hillary that he was smart and paid no taxes.

          • redheadgirl

            Hey some of my best friends are wealthy. My nephew produced a hit TV series for years. He pays a ton of taxes and is grateful for the very healthy bank account he has. Not greedy. Doesn’t need more.

          • redheadgirl

            Alabama is blue

          • Cur Traut

            So true! Blue to the point of despondency.

          • Cur Traut

            Your point? I’ll bet he paid less percentage wise than Trump does.

          • KevinR.

            No, he said he paid less taxes.

            His financial records submitted for the campaign shows the financial status, including taxes, and the one year of his tax records that did get released publicly showed he paid millions.

            Now, do you support criminal activities, using fraudulent documents….

            Illegal aliens should NOT gain any advantage from US taxpayers.

          • CD Ard

            Stupid Marxist, he paid $35 million to the Feds on the return that the bimbo flake Rachel Maddow waved around like a rodent trophy.

          • Cur Traut

            Fake information!

          • Cur Traut

            The red girl doesn’t really care about reality. She’s just another fake American who is truly a Marxist in disguise.

        • Cur Traut

          You’re very small horizon of the world is nothing but fake and false. Who do you think really put those up? More likely to be a cartel boss than an upper middle income American.

          Go sell your Kool-Aid somewhere the Marxists like it well. Like Venezuela, or Nicaragua.

      • KevinR.

        Do not forget, the top 10% of incomes pay 70% of the taxes, and the bottom 30% or so, pay no taxes, they have a negative tax rate, so they gain money from the IRS…..

        How about fair… when 10% pay 70% of the tax revenue.

    • KevinR.

      Consider the tax bill being discussed does not decrease tax rates for the higher incomes, and it is already unbalanced as the top 10% of incomes have been paying 70% of the taxes, while the bottom 30% or so, do not pay taxes, they actually have a negative tax rate.

      Why do you think you have a right to the property of others.

      • CD Ard

        The bottom 50% of earners pay only 2% of taxes, the bottom 34% pay zero. A bunch of deadbeats and Marxists stealing from those who do pay taxes.

        • KevinR.

          The bottom earners.. somewhere below 35% have a negative tax rate, so it is not only that they pay no taxes, they get money from the IRS when they file their tax returns, money that comes from those who do pay taxes.

    • Cur Traut

      Don’t worry, it won’t pass. With McCain, Rand Paul, Corker, Graham, the conservative agenda has no chance now in the swamp. Don’t worry, be happy!

  • Rupert

    If Congress is ‘working on it’ then the tax bill will be unrecognizable and probably worthless when they finish. These are the same bandits who have spent decades setting up the current nightmarish tax system which has helped all but destroy our once great manufacturing based economy. Their tinkering with the proposed tax relief bill is akin to having drug dealers and human traffickers police our borders.

    • HarryObrian

      It may have killed manufacturing but I know plenty of millionaire tax attorneys and accountants.

  • KevinR.

    Does the tax bill still allow illegal aliens to get the child credit? Do illegal aliens still gain an advantage and American tax dollars when they should not even be here?

    There are issues that need to be resolved… and unfortunately, both Democrats and the progressive Republicans are at fault and do not want to resolve them.

    • Disgusted by the Misleadia

      If I remember correctly, the House bill requires valid SSN’s for the parents and the children, in order to claim the child tax credit.

      The Senate bill only requires a valid SSN for the child. This is an improvement over current policy, which requires an ITIN for the child.

      The IRS refuses to enforce an existing federal law that bans illegal immigrants from receiving any federal benefit.

      • HarryObrian

        Therefore it doesn’t matter what is in the tax bill because congress is powerless to control the IRS. So why do we even have a government if the alleged ‘contractor’ IRS is running the show? Unless the prez goes along with the IRS, like that fake prez Barry did, he is powerless, ya that makes sense…

      • jenshadus

        Valid SSN? Numbers that are stolen? How do we vet that?

        • Disgusted by the Misleadia

          Stolen SSNs are actually pretty easy to identify. When the Social Security Administration receives payroll taxes with a mismatched SSN and name, they already put that money into an “earnings suspense file” (about 12B/year in 2005). When someone steals a matched SSN and name, that’s also easy to identify when two people are using it at the same time. Stealing a dead person’s SSN and name is now rare, due to the safeguards against that.

          The problem is that the Social Security Administration and the IRS don’t investigate and/or prosecute this kind of identity theft, unless they use it to obtain government money. It’s actually a NET GAIN for Social Security, because additional taxes are paid, but benefits are never collected.

          Congress needs to write legislation to force them to turn this evidence over to either ICE or the FBI, and create a criminal offense if there isn’t already one on the books.

          • Cur Traut

            Where have you been? Don’t you know the latest process and scam? On payday 8 to 10 illegals at a time go to the company’s cashier with their paychecks. The first person has a legal Social Security number who gives it to the cashier and then he or she lists all of the people cashing their check under that one Social Security number.

            When a regular worker
            noticed this and asked the cashier, who happened to be a lady, why she was doing it, her answer, “because I know these people they come every week.”

          • Disgusted by the Misleadia

            As I already posted, the Social Security Administration knows when this happens, because the SSN and name don’t match.

            These payroll taxes go into the “Earnings Suspense File”. They aren’t credited to the legitimate holder of the SSN. His benefits aren’t increased when he retires.

            These payroll taxes are essentially “free money” for Social Security, as no one can claim benefits based on them, and ultimately they will be distributed to other beneficiaries.

            How much? In 2005, the SSA reported they were diverting about 12B/year into the earnings suspense file.

          • Twinkle Toes

            One of the tricks illegals use is 10 of them will share one number and name. They all live together and send most of their money to Mexico. I saw this myself when I worked in the office for a construction contractor.

    • redheadgirl

      Legal children whose family is lower income will be losing their healthcare. Let’s get a grip and not lose perspective.

      • KevinR.

        Does the tax bill still allow illegal aliens to get a child credit and take American tax dollars?

        There is a grip.

        There are those who are lower income and can still afford health insurance, or they could before Obamacare.

        If they can not afford their health insurance, they should review their budget and see where they spend money they do not need to… such as HBO or Showtime… but if they have trimmed their budget and still can not afford it, there are already safety nets in existence.

        So, there is no loss of perspective.

        Illegal aliens are illegal aliens, and should not have any access to tax dollars.

        • redheadgirl

          Many illegals pay taxes. And they are actually human and Christian. How can we deny them healthcare if we are Christian?

          • KevinR.

            Many illegals pay taxes using fraudulent documents, which is another crime.

            Regardless of their being human or Christian… where is it stated that they are the responsibility of others… where is it stated that they are not to be responsible for their own lives and their own actions and choices..

            in addition, where is it stated that Americans, legal immigrants, born citizens, are not responsible for their own actions and choices.

          • Cur Traut

            The redhead is nothing but a Red, communist socialist.

          • redheadgirl

            I believes one of Jesus’s beatitudes states: Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness,

            for they shall be satisfied.

          • redheadgirl

            Doesn’t mention about legal status. Just being human.

          • KevinR.

            That does not say “give them food and drink while they are lazy and do nothing.”

            But a Communist who refuses to deal with the discussion and avoids the topics and interjects out of context things, is not expected to be honest and intelligent.

          • CD Ard

            You are a pathetic joke. They might pay sales tax….BFD. You are the farthest thing from Christian in your comments. You ARE an empty headed Marxist

          • Cur Traut

            Don’t play the false Christian card on us. Christianity has nothing to do with that. This is government, and Jesus was extremely specific about government, “stay out of it.”

            If you as an individual wish to help the charity, then you do so. That is the Christian way, not forcing other people to be coerced into using their money to pay for illegal people.

      • Cur Traut

        “Getting a grip,” doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll enjoy the ride.

  • Aldo

    MAGA~MASA~MAAA !!!

  • IceColdLogic

    Trump needs to push spending cuts. He could set a good example by cutting all funding to executive branch organizations back to Clinton era levels (adjusted for inflation). Then he could push congress to take similar steps.

    • HarryObrian

      Can anyone ever remember such a thing as a government spending cut?? Except during the last quarter of Clintoon’s mess where they didn’t spend what was allotted so it looked like a major surplus but it was just creative bookkeeping and not really a spending cut even…
      Or maybe the Clintoon welfare spending cut where they just shifted people from one program to another..
      I mean really, ‘spending cuts’, please. Never ever happen, too many crooks inside the beltway.

    • Letmesay

      I am sure that is in the near future for him.

    • Letmesay

      I am sure that is in the near future for him.